Louis CK

The reason we have this problem as a society is that women's points of view on the matter weren't consulted when norms on behavior were being formed.

Now women are speaking out and explaining that this behavior causes real emotional damage. We should be listening to them and adjusting our standards accordingly, not filtering it through our own motivations.

The question of "did they let him do it?" is not only irrelevant parsing, it's offensive, because the women are telling you that the behavior was damaging and you (the person doing the parsing) aren't listening because you still want to filter it through the male-dominated norms that say if you can cow them into not explicitly objecting then you're fine.

 

That's irrelevant. People do a lot of different things behind closed doors(or in the open) others would disagree with.

 

Because it is utterly clear contextually.

 

Consent is irrelevant now when determining whether "sexual misconduct" occurred.

This is where we are.

 

Asking is the same as doing.

 

Your definition of consent is creepy.

 

It can be. Context drives meaning.

 

No. It can’t. Doing something without permission is exceedingly worse than asking for something.

 

Rick also believes that hate speech should be legally redefined as physical violence.

He's going for Bestest Liberal Ever.

 

No, it's not.

He asked them if it was OK. We don't know how they responded to that. He then did it and they screamed and laughed. That doesn't make it clear at all, and as much as you want to ignore the point, it's not inconsequential.

 

What if the thing you're doing without permission is asking sexualized questions in an inappropriate context?

 

I just don't understand why the reporter couldn't ask the one fucking question most central to the story.