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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Where’s the call for him to resign Jerry?

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  2. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    The unemployment rate declined consistently for the last six years of the Obama presidency.
     
  3. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Where's your call for Trump to resign? Congress moves slowly, and BTW, if Nadler does think Conyers should resign, he'd be way more likely to tell him in person rather than a press release that'd just get the guy's back up.
     
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  4. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Wages are stagnant, benefits are down. Corporations are doing well with retained earnings and lots of cash on hand. No trickle down yet. Lots of getting shit on, though.
     
  5. BadgerBeer

    BadgerBeer Well-Known Member

    Congrats Yank, once again you and your "very fine people" have managed to divert. Why are we discussing Biden? As far as I know there have been no accusations other than some chopped up videos. If women come forward in the future and they are believable I will be all for ripping him a new one. Until then I find this shit reprehensible. But hey, your side is about to elect a man that was banned from a fucking mall for creeping.
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    No restrictions, not even at 20 weeks.

    Doug Jones is not even trying to give evangelicals a reason to vote for him.

     
  7. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Amazing! A candidate taking a stance against his political self-interest (which I doubt) because of his personal beliefs on an important issue. If he's a Dem, that means he's stupid I guess.
     
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  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    The conversation on here about the unemployment rate. ... and then this post. ... are always interesting to me.

    Corporations, in the aggregate, have a record amount of cash on their balance sheets, as you said. They also have record levels of debt. Essentially, interest rates have been artificially suppressed, and lending standards don't exist because of the distortions the monetary mandarins have created. And companies have borrowed trillions of dollars, or put another way, several dollars of debt for every dollar they have actually earned over the last 8, 9 years.

    Sure that has put a lot of cash on their balance sheets. It's phony. You'd have a lot of cash on hand if you maxed out every credit card in your pocket with a cash advance. Where does that leave you ultimately, and what is the end game going t obe?

    It doesn't "trickle down" as you put it, because we have had a middling, depressed economy for the recovery that happened after 2009. There is no incentive to invest in plant and equipment and opening new stores, etc. in an economy that doesn't have the growth to support that investment. But when you can borrow for nothing and do it at artificially cheap levels. ... you borrow a lot, load up your balance sheet with debt and then distribute the money to your shareholders via stock buybacks and dividends. Or if you are a company that isn't even viable, you can just keep borrowing and exist for years that way as a zombie company that exists only on more and more debt. That is why worldwide equity prices have gone up so much. Fixed income investors being robbed of their risk-free yield by the manipulation, have had to reach into riskier places and when stocks pay them a dividend that makes up some of what they are being robbed of, and stock buybacks are creating phony capital gains for as long as the scheme can continue. ... you get reckless behavior that feeds the bubble until it pops. There is eventually a heavy price to pay for that stupidity.

    It also doesn't benefit the actual economy in any way -- it does the exact opposite, as most people have experienced (and why Donald Trump got elected). You are creating unrealized paper gains for a lot of people, who are going to see those gains go poof at some point when all of the leverage that has built up creates the inevitable bust (that comes after the phony boom). Some rich people will get way richer along the way, and get out in time. But the vast majority of the population is struggling. That unemployment rate is nonsensical when you have people who 15, 20 years ago had one manufacturing job that paid more than the 2 jobs waiting tables or tending bar that they have now trying to get by.
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    A. So, unless a victim comes forward, there’s no issue, despite the evidence hiding in plain site? Under that standard, Harvey Weinstein and Roy Moore had no issues until recently.

    2. What shit is reprehensible? The pointing out of Joe Biden’s behavior? Did you watch the “chopped up videos”? What do you see? Regardless of whether the victims want to make an accusation against the Vice President, are his actions acceptable? It’s really a simple question.
     
  10. Donny in his element

    Donny in his element Well-Known Member

    I find these statements more impactful in their original tweet form.

    And I was going to admonish you guys about falling for a parody account. Sometimes I forget...
     
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  11. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    How much of the congressional slush fund was for speaker Denny Hastert ? Larry ‘Wide Stance’ Craig? Too old?

    BTW if you deny the allegations, they are presumptively not true. Case closed, move on to next Russian story
     
  12. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Has that particular nugget actually been confirmed? Just curious about how factual that is ...
     
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