Do we not have a running 2017 golf thread?

Who is asking you to use it in the paper? We are asking you open your damn eyes. Your whole premise was that Tiger has to be clean because he demanded testing is ridiculous as has been pointed out to you by others.

Again, you seem to be clueless about PED's and you haven't given your thoughts on Tigers relationship with a doctor who went to jail for smuggling HGH. A substance they did not test for.

Let' start with John Daly talking to ESPN.
Daly calls PGA Tour drug testing 'a big joke'

And you really should read this one Hondo and look at WADA's results for the golfers.
Drug testing in golf is a joke that isn’t funny

This quote is from Rory McIlroy
“I think drug testing in golf is still quite far behind some of the other sports,” he said. “I don’t know myself of a banned substance that could help a golfer across the board, with driving, with putting, with concentration. Physically, obviously, you can get stronger, recover faster. So, I mean, for example, human growth hormone (HGH) . . . you can’t really pick it up in a urine test. I could use HGH and get away with it.”

And here's a trainer describing why a golfer would take PED's and that the PGA drug testing is a scam.

The PGA Drug Testing Scam - Renegade Golf Training

 

Have you changed your opinion yet @hondo ? If not, here's more reading for you. Somehow these guys were able to do their job and get these stories published.

The PGA Tour's Drug-Testing Policy Needs a Big Fix

Here are a couple excerpts.

Therein lies another problem. The Tour claims to conduct random testing in and out of competition, as well as at and away from tournament sites. But Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson and McIlroy headlined a group of Tour stars who told The New York Times in 2013 that they had never been tested away from a tournament venue. Last March, John Daly called the Tour's testing policy "a big joke" and said he and other Tour pros know exactly when they will be tested, a claim the Tour denies

"If all you're doing is testing at the events, there's a huge window for athletes to use PEDs and not get detected," Tygart said. "You could use them, stop a few days before the tournament and the drug could be out of your system so it doesn't show up on a test but you're still getting the performance benefits."

Do you still think the testing wasn't a joke?

 

I, for one, completely believe that Dustin Johnson just happened to take two separate leaves of absence that lasted exactly 6 months and one day.

 

@hondo has gone missing.

 

Especially when you are high on cocaine.

 

Not quite. Are there flaws in the testing? Obviously, but it's a fairly new process for golf. WADA and the Olympics have been at this for a lot longer.
The issue of testing away from tournament is sticky because PGA Tour players don't work for the tour. They're independent contractors. It's not like a team sports athlete who's at the team's facility or locker room every day of a season or during OTA's during the off-eeason and available for testing. You are not going to get Tour guys to approve showing up at random at their doorstep during a three-week break and demanding they pee in the bottle and they're the ones who approve any testing program through the Policy Board (which has four player reps).
The Tour has always announced violations of PEDs. Beginning in October, they're announcing positive tests for recreational drugs. The reason disciplinary issues had not been released in the past is for the above reason: the Tour staff works for the players, not the other way around. They've decided to make an exception in this case but things like fines for cussing out a volunteer or throwing a club still won't be released.

 

So testing is a joke and it would be very easy for Tiger to rant about being tested knowing full well he couldn't be caught.

 

All of this is accurate and informative, yet completely dodges the initial point, which is that it's naive to say you know Tiger didn't use HGH because he (I think I have this right) asked for testing that didn't test for HGH and he didn't looked yoked (he did) and it wouldn't help him anyway (actually PEDs are hugely important when it comes to injury recovery).

I don't know if Tiger juiced. I would not accuse Tiger of being on the juice.

To rule it out entirely, based on flawed reasoning, is absurd.

 

Speaking of TW .. He's playing Riviera CC in February at Genesis Open.