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Even The Wolf likely can't clean up Harvey Weinstein's pending troubles

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Double Down, Oct 5, 2017.

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  1. exmediahack

    exmediahack Well-Known Member

    I'll say St. Joseph or Rapid City next time instead of Quincy.
     
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  2. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Point remains. ESPN hires white men *above* the rate they appear in the demographics. White men are everywhere in other places in the industry.

    Instead of thinking "Hmm, maybe I'm lucky to be a white man, that got me a leg up," you accused ESPN of discriminating against white men and shat on women in the industry. You're not a bad person, but that's not a good look.
     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    He didn’t accuse ESPN of discriminating against white men.

    He basically said that because they value diversity, and because there are only so many jobs total to be had, there are more white men competing per available job than there are black men, white women, or black women.

    And, that’s either true or not true.
     
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  4. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    It's absolutely true across the TV industry.

    I'm not even suggesting it's a bad thing. It's undeniably true, though.
     
  5. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    You're now a lazy misogynist.

    So sayeth Captain Righteous.
     
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  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I’m not sure why we should expect all industries and professions to be racially and gender diverse in perfect perportion to society at large.

    Different people and groups have different interests, and different jobs require a level of education that alters the racial and gender makeup of the applicant pool.

    And, I don’t think @exmediahack or @Alma are wrong or insensitive to point out that if you have one job, from which your applicant pool is 200 white men, with an average age of 33 and 10 years of reporting and on camera experience, that they might be better at their job than the person hired from an applicant pool of 30 (beautiful) women, with an average age of 25, and less than 3 years of experience.
     
  7. exmediahack

    exmediahack Well-Known Member

    The difference in, say, anchoring sports compared to most other jobs is that the skill level of the person doing it should be apparent to anyone watching it, whether an expert or a casual viewer.

    There is a skill set to it.

    I haven't done sports on a full-time basis in a dozen years. Even now, I see people on ESPN with subpar writing skills. Subpar ad libbing skills. Subpar overall command of the ability to express the story, highlights of the situation.

    You could drop me in Briatol with two days of computer system training and, by the third day, I could probably give you a solid SportsCenter. Mastery of the subject. Few on-air stumbles. Ad-libbing with a flow.

    But I know they'd have no interest in hiring me, even though I'm also in shape and have anchor hair.

    And I knew this going in.

    Just as people who get to a national network by 25 should know they probably got there from either their background or nepotism. If that's the case, don't always expect roses and sonnets from the 38 year old who got there after wasting three years of shooting high school volleyball features in Rapid City or St. Joseph.
     
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  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Captain Righteous is going to be the handle of my sock puppet.
     
  9. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    @PCLoadLetter gets credit. I copied off him. But, yeah, it's a spot on moniker for Stain's recent schtick.
     
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  10. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    you post far too much to not fuck the sock puppet up.
     
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  11. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    This just reeks of coulda-been-a-contenderism. Everyone could run a baseball team, fix newspapers and open a restaurant too, if given the chance.
     
  12. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    This is going to be one of those concepts that is hopelessly beyond you, but I'll say it for the audience. I don't call people misogynists. I called an idea misogynistic.
     
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