Offseason baseball Thread

Nouton? He’s a shortstop in Seattle.

 

Says the guy who was too dumb to realize he admitted I was right.

You keep claiming I said there would be no linkage to revenue. That is completely wrong. I'm sorry. I'm not an elementary school teacher, so I'm not used to having to break things down to the level you need.

Just because you don't understand the answer I gave doesn't mean I didn't give one. I guess that concept is beyond you as well.

 

Jon Heyman today on WFAN suggested he thinks the Yankees are targeting - and likely to get - Gerritt Cole from the Pirates for probably Clint Frazier and a couple of younger minor leaguers (no Gleyber Torres).

He also said he thinks the Yankees may be able to move Ellsbury, who has a no-trade and previously said he wanted to stay in NYC. I can't imagine why anyone would want Ellsbury, but Cashman might lock up MLB Executive of the Year in January if he's able to move him. Heyman seems to think San Francisco is the most likely taker (if he moves at all).

 

The joys of checking this forum via cell phone.

 

Maybe if the Giants were this aggressive in odd years, they’d win in those years too.

 

Pirates owner Bob Nutting claimed he is "extremely driven" to make his team a winner in an interview this week.

Owner Bob Nutting says he's 'extremely driven' to make Pirates winners in Q&A session

Then you read this.

Sources: Yankees continue to push for Gerrit Cole, whom Pittsburgh expects to deal soon

Cole has two more arbitration-eligible seasons before he hits free agency, but the Pirates are apparently very motivated to move him now.

Level playing field, my ass.

 

But that's when players are getting traded now. Teams aren't as interested any more in dealing soon-to-be free agents. They want players under team control. It's why the Orioles can't move Manny Machado and why the White Sox were able to move Chris Sale, Jose Quintana, and Adam Eaton for enormous returns.

 

I see JC is crying because I've proven my point even more convincingly. It really is sad to see him so upset and confused.

 

If the Pirates actually get an enormous return on Cole, then it may be a smart move by management. When ownership is pushing too hard to unload salary, that's when teams don't get the value they should for players like him.

That said, you raise a valid point. Thank you for engaging in an actual discussion rather than following the pile-jumper's lead.