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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Lot of folks throwing shade Wolff's way:

     
  2. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    I'm not crazy about it. But I love using it against conservative posters on Facebook when I don't feel like offering a nuanced fact-based response. They get quite annoyed, then I tell them now they know how us liberals feel every time Trump uses it.
     
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  3. BadgerBeer

    BadgerBeer Well-Known Member


    So you believe the Washington Post now? Damn, it is hard to keep things straight these days.
     
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  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I just find the criticism -- basically defending the WH -- interesting and unusual.

    But, then Wolff hasn't always played nice either.

     
  5. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

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  6. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    On The believability scale you have Abe Lincoln on one end and Donald Trump on the other. I put the NYTimes and Wash Post much closer to Honest Abe than DT. And between Wolf and Kelly Anne , I’ll take Wolf all week
     
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    If you're going to take him, maybe you can learn to spell his name.
     
  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I'm willing to believe they may find financial improprieties. (And, it looks like they have in regards to Manafort.)

    But, that's not what the investigation was launched to find.

    We have a politicized investigation, based on flimsy evidence, that has yielded nothing in regard to it's original scope.

    This is a dangerous precedent, and I'll be sure to point this out when it's a Democratic candidate or president facing something similar.
     
  9. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    Really stupid move for Trump to betray Bannon again after letting him into the Oval Office, then kicking him out. Bannon wants to blow up the government, and now that he's getting raked again, all the more fun to blow Trump apart, too.
     
  10. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    For me, it's not so much as Wolff making shit up. I don't think he did that. But I also think he likely took what a group of liars boasted about and wrote it as if it were the Trump gospels.

    I think the Boehner anecdote is a good example. We have Murdoch telling Trump that he should hire Boehner as his COS and Trump supposedly says "Who's that?"

    Now, Trump is a fucking moron, but he played golf with Boehner once, and the guy was the Speaker for most of Obama's time in office. I find it hard to believe Trump would not have heard of him, which is why there is some potential nuance missing that Wolff purposely left out. Possible Trump could have been saying "Who's that? He's such a washed up clown, I'm not hiring someone who is a nobody now."

    Or maybe Trump really is that clueless. But I suspect Bannon told him his version of events and Wolff, instead of trying to cross-check lots of shit and arrive at some version of the truth, just went with the juiciest anecdote.

    I mean, we have 500 words of recreated dialog between Bannon and a dead guy (Ailes) who can't dispute any if it. I'm not sure the standard for accuracy was particularly strict here.
     
  11. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    O rly? How did a bad land deal in Arkansas end up being about blow jobs?

    Was there some sort of weird precedent set here? Hmmmmm...
     
  12. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    I don't care for recreated dialogue in any context, and it is becoming more prominent.
     
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