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Even The Wolf likely can't clean up Harvey Weinstein's pending troubles

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Double Down, Oct 5, 2017.

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  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Exception to every rule.
     
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  2. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    Excellent point.
     
  3. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Ansari is going to get laid like a bandit.

    Every star fucker on the planet now knows the conditions that come with accepting a date with him. He’ll have no more wasted dates.

    From now on, he just needs to buy a bottle of wine, Rush through dinner, and get them back to his place for some sex.

    What a deal. Every dater comes pre-qualified.
     
  4. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    And, he knows to buy red.
     
  5. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Colorado Indecent Exposure Laws
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Hollywood is definitely going to care less if the people you treat poorly are random star fuckers vs. other members of the entertainment community.

    If Grace was an actress, extra, or production assistant on his show, and was not anonymous, the reaction to Ansari might be different.
     
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  7. typefitter

    typefitter Well-Known Member

    I think this is true, but it might not be. Right now, he mostly makes his own shit. But if I were a casting director, I'd have to think pretty hard about casting him right now. Because if the audience doesn't want to see him anymore, it would be a mistake to put him in your show or movie. And if people don't cast him for that reason, they are effectively saying "your behaviour means you can't work anymore."
     
  8. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I have no way to prove this, of course, but I am willing to at least wager/hypothesize that most sexual assault accusations mirror the Grace-Ansari events more than they mirror what we typically think of as sexual assault. What if Grace had left out the tick-tock and instead just asserted that she had been sexually assaulted by Aziz Ansari? The reaction isn't nearly as sympathetic toward him and dismissive toward her, right? We'd believe her, right?
     
  9. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    - Much of the reaction to Anzari is similar to Lena Dunham. Believe and condemn everyone, but when it's someone you know and like, or feel like you know and like, it's complex.

    - Weinstein's endorsement of a gun free world is awfully self-interested. If any of these women had been armed he might be dead.
     
  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    If Grace was not anonymous, period, the reaction might be different. Grace is just a cipher right now. It's easy to attack a cipher. This is someone we like vs. a phantom. We can graft whatever traits we need to onto Grace.
     
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  11. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    You're right about this, once the women in the lede came out the next day and said it was non-consensual. That was not clear from the initial NY Times story, is what I meant.
     
  12. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    There's also a degree to which men have been (subconsciously) waiting for a case they could plant a flag and say "*This* is too far. It goes here and no further." Privilege perpetuating itself and being uncomfortable with losing too much control over norms.
     
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