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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    My guess is that he puts the speech out on Twitter. Right now, he’s just hoping he can get to Florida to go to his party tonight and to play 18.
     
  2. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    Wasn't the porn star Trump paid off the same one who ran against Leslie Knope?
     
  3. melock

    melock Well-Known Member

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  5. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    As of this morning, at least one Democratic Senator, Whitehouse of Rhode Island, is expressing the belief that some form of compromise CR could pass the Senate over the weekend. My guess is that in return for a CR minus DACA, McConnell will allow DACA to reach the floor as a stand alone bill. It will pass as such. Then whatever happens next will be Donald Trump's problem, and Paul Ryan's problem, but not Mitch's problem. He can face the world and say, "hey, I tried." More importantly, he will have gotten his 99 fellow Senators off the same hook, and no matter how mad they get about what comes next, they will remember and be grateful.
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Not going to happen.
     
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

  8. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    And it could be a nuclear winter Summer Olympic year.
     
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  9. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    That's a pretty definitive statement about a situation where the principals all admit it's highly fluid and uncertain. The easiest possible solution would be for Trump, McConnell and Ryan just to say, "we want to deport the Dreamers and that's that." That would put the issue in front of the voters, and Congress would move on. But none of the three has of yet been willing to do that, because that stance would be unpopular. So we get this oscillation towards and away from possible compromises.
     
  10. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    No one wins in this scenario.

    Schumer just gets a clean DACA vote in the Senate, but no guarantee that it passes the House, or is signed by Trump?

    McConnell makes his members take a vote on a contentious issue, knowing it doesn't pass the House or get signed by the President?
     
  11. QYFW

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  12. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    That's a pretty definitive statement about a situation where the principals all admit it's highly fluid and uncertain. The easiest possible solution would be for Trump, McConnell and Ryan just to say, "we want to deport the Dreamers and that's that." That would put the issue in front of the voters, and Congress would move on. But none of the three has of yet been willing to do that, because that stance would be unpopular. So we get this oscillation towards and away from possible compromises.
    Yes, because the Senate kicks the can to the White House and the House. The need/desire to avoid responsibility is one of the most powerful (and most bipartisan) motives in politics. It's just a guess. There are many other possible outcomes. But they all stem from one issue. The President and most Republicans in Congress want to deport the Dreamers, and most voters want them to stay. In this case, a Republican "win" in Congress would be a bigger problem for them than a "loss."
     
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