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Neutral Corner · Jan 20, 2018

Twitter: Way More Accounts Than We Thought Spread Russian Propaganda

RickStain · Jan 20, 2018

Neutral Corner said: ↑

Twitter: Way More Accounts Than We Thought Spread Russian Propaganda
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Everyone on social media: Duh

YankeeFan · Jan 20, 2018

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Here's what the "CIA employee" who was actually Ben Rhodes deputy, though the his Post account doesn't mention this, says about his decision:

To be clear, my decision had nothing to do with politics, and I would have been proud to again work under a Republican administration open to intelligence analysis. I served with conviction under President George W. Bush, some of whose policies I also found troubling, and I took part in programs that the Obama administration criticized and ended. As intelligence professionals, we’re taught to tune out politics. The river separating CIA headquarters in Langley, Va., from Washington might as well be a political moat. But this administration has flipped that dynamic on its head: The politicians are the ones tuning out the intelligence professionals.

We get this from him:

There was no greater reward than having my analysis presented to the president and seeing it shape events. Intelligence informing policy — this is how the system is supposed to work. I saw that up close for the past three years at the White House, where I worked on loan from the CIA until last month.

But, he wasn't serving as a analyst. He was working in a political position, as the deputy to the Assistant to the President and Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Communications and Speechwriting.

His job was political messaging.

Let's take a look at how he comes up in the infamous NYT Magazine profile of Rhodes:

The Boy Wonder of the Obama White House is now 38. He heads downstairs to his windowless basement office, which is divided into two parts. In the front office, his assistant, Rumana Ahmed, and his deputy, Ned Price, are squeezed behind desks, which face a large television screen, from which CNN blares nonstop.
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Standing in his front office before the State of the Union, Rhodes quickly does the political math on the breaking Iran story. “Now they’ll show scary pictures of people praying to the supreme leader,” he predicts, looking at the screen. Three beats more, and his brain has spun a story line to stanch the bleeding. He turns to Price. “We’re resolving this, because we have relationships,” he says.

Price turns to his computer and begins tapping away at the administration’s well-cultivated network of officials, talking heads, columnists and newspaper reporters, web jockeys and outside advocates who can tweet at critics and tweak their stories backed up by quotations from “senior White House officials” and “spokespeople.” I watch the message bounce from Rhodes’s brain to Price’s keyboard to the three big briefing podiums — the White House, the State Department and the Pentagon — and across the Twitterverse, where it springs to life in dozens of insta-stories, which over the next five hours don formal dress for mainstream outlets. It’s a tutorial in the making of a digital news microclimate — a storm that is easy to mistake these days for a fact of nature, but whose author is sitting next to me right now.
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In this environment, Rhodes has become adept at ventriloquizing many people at once. Ned Price, Rhodes’s assistant, gave me a primer on how it’s done. The easiest way for the White House to shape the news, he explained, is from the briefing podiums, each of which has its own dedicated press corps. “But then there are sort of these force multipliers,” he said, adding, “We have our compadres, I will reach out to a couple people, and you know I wouldn’t want to name them — ”

“I can name them,” I said, ticking off a few names of prominent Washington reporters and columnists who often tweet in sync with White House messaging.

Price laughed. “I’ll say, ‘Hey, look, some people are spinning this narrative that this is a sign of American weakness,’ ” he continued, “but — ”

“In fact it’s a sign of strength!” I said, chuckling.

“And I’ll give them some color,” Price continued, “and the next thing I know, lots of these guys are in the dot-com publishing space, and have huge Twitter followings, and they’ll be putting this message out on their own.”

Yep. Just an apolitical, career CIA analyst, who was happy to provide the President with his analysis, who had to resign when he didn't respect the new guy.

Such a shame.
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LOL. Suddenly, Ned Price and the rest of the Obama Boys aren't in favor of transparency.

YankeeFan · Jan 20, 2018

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Sadly, your guy's approval rate just went down to 37 percent again. I thought it was trending upward. At least that's what somebody around here postulated last week.
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Over 40% now.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval

Michael_ Gee · Jan 20, 2018

There is one significant factual difference between this shutdown and the Obama and Clinton era shutdowns. Not partisan, factual. The previous shutdowns occurred because the party without the White House wanted to enact sweeping changes to the status quo. This one involves the party without the White House seeking to maintain the status quo.
Here's my personal view. The Republican party is making it so plain it stands for the principle of an America that is as white as humanly possible where whites run things that those who defend it here are rapidly losing any ability to defend themselves from charges of racism. You can LOL or he's been drinking as much as you want. You stand with racism and its stink and shame is upon you. Once upon a time, not very long ago even, I would've met some of Trump's defenders here in person, ignored politics and had one hell of a good time. That's getting nearer and nearer to impossible.

RickStain · Jan 20, 2018

YankeeFan said: ↑

Over 40% now.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval
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OK, even I gotta admire the commitment to the bit it takes to call scoreboard on a President with a -15 rating in a good economy during his first year.

YankeeFan · Jan 20, 2018

Their polls must show that shutting down the government to get a deal on DACA isn't as popular as they thought it would be.

YankeeFan · Jan 20, 2018

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OK, even I gotta admire the commitment to the bit it takes to call scoreboard on a President with a -15 rating in a good economy during his first year.
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Well, he's moving up, which is what matters.

Folks are beginning to see that the tax cuts not only won't result in millions of deaths, but is actually helping.

And, the tide is starting to turn on the phony Russian collusion story the left and the media has been pushing from day one. Once it's fully exposed what a load of shit that was, and that the real scandal is the Obama administration's abuse of the FISA process and the gathering of intelligence, for political purposes, his numbers will climb higher.

RickStain · Jan 20, 2018

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Well, he's moving up, which is what matters.

Folks are beginning to see that the tax cuts not only won't result in millions of deaths, but is actually helping.

And, the tide is starting to turn on the phony Russian collusion story the left and the media has been pushing from day one. Once it's fully exposed what a load of shit that was, and that the real scandal is the Obama administration's abuse of the FISA process and the gathering of intelligence, for political purposes, his numbers will climb higher.
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The "the presence of an investigation only proves that the investigation is tainted because obviously they're out to get us" is less impressive due to how mundane it is.

YankeeFan · Jan 20, 2018

Michael_ Gee said: ↑

There is one significant factual difference between this shutdown and the Obama and Clinton era shutdowns. Not partisan, factual. The previous shutdowns occurred because the party without the White House wanted to enact sweeping changes to the status quo. This one involves the party without the White House seeking to maintain the status quo.
Here's my personal view. The Republican party is making it so plain it stands for the principle of an America that is as white as humanly possible where whites run things that those who defend it here are rapidly losing any ability to defend themselves from charges of racism. You can LOL or he's been drinking as much as you want. You stand with racism and its stink and shame is upon you. Once upon a time, not very long ago even, I would've met some of Trump's defenders here in person, ignored politics and had one hell of a good time. That's getting nearer and nearer to impossible.
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DACA was never meant to be a long term, status quo, solution.

Based on how the courts viewed DAPA, it's unlikely that DACA would have been upheld.

Trump, is willing to work with Congress to not only make these dreamers legal, but to put them on a path to citizenship, which is a far better situation than keeping them in the legal limbo of DACA.

In return, he wants changes in the immigration system, and in border enforcement, so we don't end up in the same situation in 10 or 20 years.

Sorry, but that's not racist. It's the best deal the dreamers have been offered yet, and Democrats are blocking it, because they want illegal immigration to continue.

Alma · Jan 20, 2018

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"Look" has become a conversational tool to puff up a debate point while punching down on the audience. Whenever you hear it (or see it in, say, a message board post ), you can expect some sort of deflection or distraction bullshit to follow.
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Former President Obama did it sometimes himself. Were his “look” moments before BS arguments, too?

garrow · Jan 20, 2018

POTUS trip to populist shindig in jeopardy.

Post-shutdown, uncertainty hangs over Trump Davos trip

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