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Penn State scorn versus Michigan State scorn

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by poindexter, Jan 18, 2018.

  1. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    That's the thing. You clean the administrative house.

    If the school refuses to clean the administrative house, or hems and haws, then the NCAA cleans the athletic house for them.
     
  2. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Yes, but that's not what Michael is proposing. He wants to make the non-gymnastics student-athletes at the school pay for it, too. I didn't hear that being dependent on the school's actions from here.
     
  3. Jake_Taylor

    Jake_Taylor Well-Known Member

    Can they do it before the start of the NCAA Tournament, asking for a friend who may or may not be @Big Circus
     
  4. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Well, that's what I'm meaning, and I realize my earlier post a few pages ago probably didn't clarify that.

    Like with Penn State, I was in favor of heavy penalties for the football team, even if it did hurt current players who had nothing to do with the Sandusky era. It was an entire culture that needed to be changed, and too many were willing to make excuses just because of wins, losses, and money.
     
  5. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    And that's the line I will continue to draw. I can't use the term "collateral damage" enough when discussing this.

    You make the offending school pay and pay and pay ... right up to the point where you're affecting the lives of those who had nothing to do with the offense. Some say that's being morally reprehensible. Some obviously say that. I say that's being morally responsible. I know some want to go burnt earth. But sometimes you have to take a moment and think about everyone who is affected by your decisions.
     
  6. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    . . . that 99 percent of the country STILL would have ignored if not for the Greatest Sentencing Phase Show on Earth.
     
  7. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

  8. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    How does someone with instincts this spectacularly bad end up rising to the position she has? This is amazing.
     
  9. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Dare we say Lou Anna subscribed to the Donald Trump School of Political Correctness?
     
  10. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Do you guys really think Simon had any knowledge of/involvement in any of this? We’re talking about the president of a Big 10 university with an enrollment that’s 50,000-plus. And yes, it’s on her watch, but still ...
     
  11. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    For what it's worth, I'm with Shottie on MSU -- the president had to go and the trustees and a few other administrators should be next, but I don't see the value in nuking the athletic department. Penn State struck me as a department-wide sickness in a way that I don't see at Michigan State, at least from the outside.

    USA gymnastics, on the other hand, needs to be blown up entirely.
     
  12. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    According to the Detroit News she was one of 14 administrators who had been told about Nassar over 20 years, and chose to do nothing.

    Happening on her watch would have been enough for me, but she knew there was a problem.
     
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