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Penn State scorn versus Michigan State scorn

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by poindexter, Jan 18, 2018.

  1. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    The problem with your scenario, though, is that somebody above did hear of it, and chose to do nothing about it. A lot of somebodys, and a lot of reports, in fact.

    There's also, as I referred to earlier, the culture of fear. The girls and their parents put their entire lives into making the Olympics and winning gold (and in reality, even if they did, they don't make much money anyways compared to big time pro athletes). One report, and people in power boot them off the team.
     
  2. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Emphasizing that it's a public institution is fine by me.
     
  3. WriteThinking

    WriteThinking Well-Known Member

    Don't need it clarified. Do you? Did you read the link? There's no surprise. There are parents quoted.
     
  4. WriteThinking

    WriteThinking Well-Known Member

    If so, this is why USA Gymnastics should be blown up.

    Who above Nassar and/or the coach was told, or otherwise knew of the situation? Who outside of USA Gymnastics? Medically and legally speaking, in the end, this seems like it all comes down to Nassar and Geddert, and no two people, alone, should have been in a position to have this happen, on this scale, given the number of athletes, parents and families, and, by extension, any other coaches/officials in USA Gymnastics, or even the whole of US Olympics administration, that could have been involved.

    And yes, the scale, and, to oop's veiled point, the non-family dynamics (which is what I always tried to address in the Duggar case), of this makes a huge, almost inconceivable difference.
     
  5. WriteThinking

    WriteThinking Well-Known Member

    FYI: That timeline provided in the link posted by Azrael (Page 20) is very helpful. Thank you for that.

    I'd like to know to whom the first future-Olympic gymnast alleging issues with Nassar (in 1994!) spoke?

    And what finally brought all this out just now? It appears to have been the Indianapolis Star's investigation of Nassar in 2016. Kudos to them, obviously, but really, it makes all this seem all the worse, on the part of everybody involved.
     
  6. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Trump nominates Larry Nassar, M.D. as Surgeon General
     
  7. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I hadn't seen this quote from the judge.

    That's fucking bullshit.

     
  8. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    You’d think the defendant was black. White criminals don’t get treated like that, unless you’re Bill Cosby.
     
  9. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Honestly, she gave every indication of someone with a personal stake in the proceedings. And please, don't take that to mean that this shouldn't strike a personal chord in people. I'm just saying she let her decorum drop more than once.
     
  10. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

  11. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    That's fear for the gymnasts. That's being a terrible human for the parents.
     
  12. WriteThinking

    WriteThinking Well-Known Member

    Boy, what a gravy train. That's $750,000 for a year-long research leave? (I wonder if that's what it'd really be, and she'd have to actually do some work, or if it's just a paid disciplinary leave of absence). More than $520,000 a year after that if she decides to stay on as faculty?

    But really, with the kind of money earned for her years in her current position, I'm sure she can just truly retire, go away, and be very comfortable. That's what I would do if I were her.
     
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