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Penn State scorn versus Michigan State scorn

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by poindexter, Jan 18, 2018.

  1. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Cream cheese on bagels was a violation.

    Sexual assault? Nothing to see here.
     
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  2. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Michigan State may very well go all the way down. The whole athletic department...gone
     
  3. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    You’ll get your wish in your lifetime. All of it, poof, gone.

    Colleges are going to want out, too. You have eggheads and gym teachers trying to manage situations and they are so out of their depth in doing so that I think you’ll see schools say what you just said: Fuck it.
     
  4. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    College football is so much a part of the fabric of the South, that I just don't know if you could ever remove it from higher education. Not in my lifetime. I always laugh when liberals who aren't that into sports say stuff like "Football is going to die sooner rather than later." Anyone who believes that should spend a weekend attending any SEC game between two ranked teams. You will pry football from the South's dead hands. They will succeed again before they give up football, and that is to say nothing of northern strongholds like Penn State and Michigan and Ohio State. It will be real interesting if insurers start pulling out, but even then, cheaper insurers will just slide into the marketplace and kids will likely have worse long-term health.

    But returning to the original point, fuck every last asshole in the NCAA offices who says they were too busy to follow up on programs with repeated sexual assault. Ugh, these awful awful ostriches with their head in the sand.
     
  5. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Those are good points. But I think it may happen anyway in many parts of the country.
     
  6. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    When universities are sued out of their endowments, when they must give up federal funding if they don't., they will give up football no matter where they are located. Won't happen in my lifetime, but I'm old.
     
  7. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Why is it that people ... well, y’all ... are always surprised when the “eggheads” (@Alma, 2018) reveal themselves as terribly inept at running pretty much anything ... yet continually look to (and fervently hope for) them to run pretty much everything?
     
  8. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

  9. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    It's a matter of knowledge or lack of same. There are plenty of people who know a bunch about a specific topic and almost nothing about others. Fit the square pegs into the square holes and any institutions runs OK if not perfectly. The problem with politics is that people who're good at going on radio and TV and telling morons what they want to hear have become dominant despite the limited utility of that skill in actual governance. The problem in your sector, higher education, is that the people at the top are chosen for their skill at high stakes panhandling and the rest of a very complex institution is beyond them. Of course there are exceptions in all fields, but alas, not enough.
     
  10. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    I hope they don't retroactively take away Arkansas' Fiesta Bowl "win."
     
  11. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    They’re out of their depth on this stuff. Title IX requires someone to handle it in those institutions, and they haven’t adapted very well. And coaches never were good at it. Ever.

    And so now you have lawsuits and media organizations that are very engaged and administrators are overwhelmed.
     
  12. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    We as a board have been terribly wrong. Cleveland State may be the only pure program in college sports.

    Seriously, though, Emmert needs to join all the others in the unemployment line. And the NCAA needs some big-time restructuring.
     
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