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Penn State scorn versus Michigan State scorn

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by poindexter, Jan 18, 2018.

  1. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    I dont know you personally or your work, personally, so I am making my observations based on my experience. I think the approach you may take was correct 35-40 years ago when sexual assault and serious illegal activity by big time college athletes was rare.

    I think reporting believable accusations without waiting for the government to act is the only responsible journalism.
     
  2. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Uh ... come again?
     
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  3. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Waiting for the government to charge an 18-22 student athlete before publishing in 1975 was probably the right thing. There wasnt a known history in 1975 of government coverups of athletic program crimes committed by athletes and coaches.

    Today’s student athletes are more of a public figure than they were 30 years ago. THere’s a history of Universities covering up crimes committed by their athletes and of government complicity in the cover up. And we know that ESPN will ignore stories like Seeberg and cumstains like Mike Golic will deflect the story if brought up. And Notre Dame and Michigan State and Kentucky and Louisville and Miami and 200 hundred other schools and organizations will and have ignored rape, assault and molestations Unless journalists are vigilant and operate to report allegations not banking them. Having Tom Izzo look at you at press conference with a semblance of respect because you buried the report of an assault allegation against his players is gross

    Journalism in this area today works as a pilot light on the investigation. Keep it lit.
     
  4. Donny in his element

    Donny in his element Well-Known Member

    You forgot Maryland.
     
  5. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    No I didn’t. It’s been 27 years or so since Bob Wade. 30 since Len Bias. Those stories were fairly covered. Early and often. And at a time when the Baltimore Sun was a decent and relevant newspaper.. the Post, for its faults, doesn’t look the other way at maryland unless there’s a racial angle unfavorable to African Americans. However, The Post was no better than campus newspaper when it came to John Thompson Jr.

    And I still stand by my theory that if Jim Boeheim, Roy Williams and Rick Pitino are dirty, then Saint Mike K. And Tom Izzo are not beyond reproach and are undeserving of deference, as are all in involved in NCAA sanctioned athletics
    Baltimore transportation supervisor Daryl Wade charged in federal extortion case
     
  6. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Who’s knocking the OTL reporter? She did good work. (And, from my view, often does.)

    It’s ESPN’s timing of the story, in the wake of an extraordinary, emotional week for the victims, immediately shifting to Tom Izzo and Mark Dantonio, and then the amount of coverage on that story Friday on ESPN.
     
  7. Donny in his element

    Donny in his element Well-Known Member

    Was mostly just needling you as your Maryland fandom underscores pretty much every NCAA gripe you have.

    Your reply is more fun than I thought.

    Every school is breaking rules or worse (even my alma mater, but not as pervasively as its rivals, of course!).
     
  8. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    CAN WE PLEASE BREAK SOME RULES THAT ALLOW A WINNING SEASON IN FOOTBALL, PLEASE
     
  9. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry, but you're being ridiculous. ESPN had a story that advanced the story of Michigan State's institutional rot, one that Paula had been working on for a long, long time, and it involved two of the biggest programs in college sports, and they (we?) should have continued to focus on Nasser after he was sentenced, and after all the victims testified? Paula had an exclusive that advanced the story of Michigan State. It also happened to involve two of the more prominent coaches in college sports.

    It's ALL connected. It would make zero sense to say "Yeah, let's hold this Lavinge story that's ready to go, and advances this tragic mess, maybe long enough that someone can beat us on it, even though we've been working on at least since February of last year."

    https://www.lansingstatejournal.com...-sex-assault-investigation-records/101201004/ "
     
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  10. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    But just the regular rules, no rape or sex stuff. Just the usual golden hypocriscy of paying a fake reverend so his amoralistic son with limited mental acuity can play football. Or giving local police rewards so the ingnorant rapist QB can steal food. Or intervene with personal counseling when a sociopathic white player deliberately intends to injure the opposing team because he was coached to do it and avoid NCAA scrutiny

    BTW, trump engages in better vetting than mark emmert’s Investigators.
    Emmert needs to be shitcanned in a humiliating and public manner
     
  11. franticscribe

    franticscribe Well-Known Member

    That's exactly how Carolina got caught.
     
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  12. Jake_Taylor

    Jake_Taylor Well-Known Member

    This is making me awfully skeptical of the places where they insist on "keeping it in the family" and what's essentially one coaching regime running things unchecked for 40+ years.

    Penn State, UNC, Michigan State. It's showing that some occasional turnover isn't the worst thing, particularly if you look beyond wins and losses.
     
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