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Penn State scorn versus Michigan State scorn

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by poindexter, Jan 18, 2018.

  1. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Great point
     
  2. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  3. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    That Klages is quite the peach.
     
  4. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    To be fair most were scared Shitless to go after Thompson since he would just cry racism.
     
  5. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

    Apropos of nothing, MD’s top QB recruit for next year is the son of a guy I’ve worked with a decent amount. Don’t know the kid, but the family is top-notch.
     
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  6. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

  7. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    You have more of a dog in this fight than I do. That said, I came by my reaction honestly and, in reading the LSJ column, did not consider professional jealousy. (Though it's worth considering.)

    I did consider that, of course the story had been worked on for a long time, and, yes, it connects to the Nassar story in that it is under the same Michigan State umbrella.

    I did consider whether it advanced the Michigan State story. I don't think it does, in the sense that failing to stop the worst pedophile in sports history is already rock bottom, as bad as it can get. This is not to minimize anything the victims of MSU football and basketball players experienced, but to say that, in the 48 hours after Nassar, when everyone is still trying to get their arms around it, the MSU football/basketball stuff felt more like (because of the timing, not the story itself) an attempted knockout blow of Izzo and Dantonio than a nod at the deeper, broader context of the story.

    I can appreciate your perspective on it, and also the perspective of the local journalist who had to eat, sleep and breathe Nassar for the last two weeks coming to Friday and already knowing Hollis was about to be gone and seeing, oh, hey, here's a yearlong investigative report on Izzo and Dantonio, too and it's kind of new stuff and kind of old and are they gonna resign and all that. I can see, on the back end of all that, a local columnist thinking ESPN was a little breathless, and I can see why you'd hate that, and I can see how you'd think your take is more informed because you've been on both sides of it. And I'm probably wrong. That said, my reaction was what it was, and may make me less of an (ex) newsman as a result.

    I still don't think any of this had to do with the OTL writer herself.
     
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  8. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    OK, so, to be clear: What was Mark Emmert supposed to do that he didn't do? I'm asking sincerely, in part because I'm curious how people see this stuff.

    He's made aware of a letter that he says references sexual assault cases already in the media, not new cases.

    He then meets with the person who sent the letter and her legal counsel.

    He then invites her to participate in two different conferences.

    I'm just asking, what should he have done? I have some ideas of what you think he should have done - and some ideas of what I think he should have done - but, instead of giving multiple choice, can you give me an idea?
     
  9. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Open an investigation by a 3rd party. Why anyone in their right mind would a ducking duplicitous con man like Emmert is beyond me. But as the NCAA he should have started an independent review. And in all cases where a sexual assault complaint is made but authorities have not charged it should be assumed that the complaints real and law enforcement has been bought off.

    Oh, and Cleveland State should have been suspended for 2years.
     
  10. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    I'm late jumping back in, but that's not what I said either. You said that it was an interesting editorial decision to shift from Nasser to Izzo/Dantonio. I concur that for ESPN it's natural for them to dig into the coaches and that's what their audience, at this point, will latch onto more than further details about Nasser and his victims. I respect the hell out of all the reporting.
     
  11. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    God damn, man ... step back from the keyboard and think for, I don’t know, a millisecond ...
     
  12. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    All sexual assault or violent crime complaints about a member of the athletic department or a student athlete shall be reported to the NCAA compliance officer at th School and then forwarded to the NCAA. This is to be done without regard to formal law enforcement investigation. And shall be updated no less than weekly.

    The universities have lost credibility, as have the NCAA, to self investigate. So reporting any offense up the line is a necessity.
     
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