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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    Read her tweets. She is not a smart person.
     
  2. Pete

    Pete Well-Known Member

    I agree that this Olympic rapprochement between the two Koreas at least temporarily lowers the heat on the Korean peninsula, and that is a good thing. However NK hasn't had to give up anything in order to do so. They certainly aren't taking any steps to "stopping this nuclear shit," which the Trump admin has stated is an absolute necessity that they have strongly implied (at the minimum) they will use military intervention to enforce.

    Instead, NK is so far waging – and winning – a PR battle that is indeed driving a bit of a wedge between SK and the U.S., and will also make it harder for the U.S. to rally the international community to impose and actually abide by stronger sanctions. Rather, Pence, and by extension the Trump admin, is coming off as petulant and petty. First he and Mother refuse to stand and applaud for the unified Korean team during the Opening Ceremonies, despite his supposed outrage at political statements during sporting events and the "not clapping when everyone else is is treasonous" trope. Then at a dinner hosted by the SK president for the NK delegation, Pence shows up late, refuses to look at the NK delegation, and leaves within five minutes. That's diplomacy as conducted by a teenage girl. It's also absolutely insulting to our SK hosts.

    Pence can make all the statements he wants about how NK's antics aren't doing anything to create any space between the U.S. and SK, but his actions are doing exactly that. And a lot of the rest of the world is looking at these Olympics and thinking, "Man, NK doesn't seem so bad, and Kim's sister is perfectly nice. But that white-haired, sourpuss American is a meanie. Wait, so which country is the bad guy again?"

    Is it largely a PR battle? Of course. Is Pence worse than NK? Of course not. But perception matters.

    And after the Olympics, I would suspect NK will be emboldened in its nuclear program, not inhibited. I bet it's going to be feeling its oats and will try to push the envelope with a provocative test. Then we'll see how the Trump admin responds. But it will likely do so from a weaker position diplomatically, which makes its military options – notably the "bloody nose" – look all the more appealing.
     
  3. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Cambridge Analytica is owned by the Mercers. They were all over the Trump Campaign and the Brexit vote, as well as cooperating with Wikileaks.

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  4. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    Anyone who processes such thoughts is an idiot of the highest order or a partisan so deranged by ideology that they don’t deserve to be taken seriously.
     
  5. Pete

    Pete Well-Known Member

    Q, diplomacy is in part about winning "hearts and minds," as squishy as that sounds. As as I think you and others have (rightly) pointed out to American liberals, demonizing those whom one wants to persuade as "idiots" and "deranged" doesn't tend to win those hearts and minds.
     
  6. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    The larger question being if they even knew he was going to be there.
     
  7. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    KellyAnne is the kind of frigid female that secretly Jills off to scat porn
     
  8. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    COAL WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!!11!!!1!!!!!
     
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  9. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    I want nothing to do with the minds of people who would think North Korea is not so bad because of some irresponsible puff pieces and manufactured optics.

     
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  10. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Trump, his supporters and the American government are so lacking in civilized values, morals and humane actions that while North Korea may be HELL on Earth, the USA and their media lap dogs have no standing to call attention to it. Russia Syria North Korea and Iran have better world wide PR than Trump’s USA. And schmucks like you are the reason why.
     
  11. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    So why is your side shrieking about it?
     
  12. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    Fitting you would write this passage.
     
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