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Most press outlets already agree, for example, not to publish the names of minor criminals or victims. Agreeing not to publicize a mass shooter might fall into the same category.

That said, we've been publishing the names of mass shooters for decades. Going back to Charles Whitman.

The number of shootings and shooters held steady for years. Only recently has it spiked.

So I'm not convinced the publicity has as much to do with this as people believe.

But again, I encourage more science on the matter.

 

I'm curious about the charges agains these Russians. Aside from the identity theft, would any of their actions not be protected by the first amendment if carried out by Americans?

Seriously?

I think campaigns already to some of this. Whether it's spreading false information -- maybe through a fake dossier -- or trying to drive down participation among those who wouldn't support you, but might support your opponent.

 

100% true. All of it.
In a couple of cases -- can't remember specs because these things are so frequent-- I remember hearing a host say he wasn't going to mention the name of the shooter. But that does not appear to have become a trend.
Still have to have a work-around for cases of active and on the loose shooters.

 

Why do you presume this is the end of the revelations from the investigations?

 

Nobody thought Trump would win. Not you, not me, not Nate Silver or the New York Times, and not Putin.

The Russian effort began in 2014, well before anyone thought Trump would actually run.

The Russians also supported Bernie Sanders, and Jill Stein, neither of whom had any chance to win.

It was always about discrediting Clinton.

And, as we see from this indictment the goal switched, as soon as Trump won, to discrediting his victory. They continued to create conflict, by supporting opposing rallies, in the same cities, on the same day.

 

Keep an eye on the voices of students. They're fed up and I think they're picking up the ball the adults have dropped here.

 

As I recall, MSNBC waited a long time after the Mandalay Bay massacre before putting up a story. Hours.

 

Because the DOJ specifically said that no Americans wittingly assisted in the campaign.

And, because, as I've said all along, and as the indictment shows, the Russians didn't need any help from the Trump campaign to assist in their effort. They knew what they were doing, and were very sophisticated.

And, it began well before Trump began running. His assistance was never part of the plan.

It also makes plain sense. If you want to keep a plan secret, you tell as few people as necessary. Why would the Russians include Trump, or any of the other blabber mouths in his campaign, in their plan? The would just fuck it up.

 

Dick Whitman / Bret Stephens.

Repeal the 2nd Amendment.

Opinion | To Repeat: Repeal the Second Amendment

 

Putin was angry Clinton questioned publicly the validity of Russian elections, and he was determined to take her down. That was the objective.