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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    And they simultaneously push vouchers to divert tax money to private schools.
     
  2. SnarkShark

    SnarkShark Well-Known Member

    You are relentless in your defense of this fucking idiot.
     
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  3. Pete

    Pete Well-Known Member

    As the Wired story previously linked explains, yesterday's indictments were *not* primarily about paid ads, but about native content created by these Russian actors.

    We are no longer talking about approximately $100,000 (paid in rubles, no less) of advertising grudgingly disclosed by Facebook, but tens of millions of dollars spent over several years to build a broad, sophisticated system that can influence American opinion.
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    As the indictment lays out in thorough detail, the content pumped out by the Russians was not paid or promoted ads; it was so-called native content—including video, visual, memetic, and text elements designed to push narrative themes, conspiracies, and character attacks.


    Facebook's top ad executive has every motivation to minimize the role played by Facebook ads – and Facebook in general – in the Russian interference campaign. The "narrative" he is paid to push is: "It's not our fault." That's an entirely separate issue from whether there was a concerted Russian effort to tip the 2016 presidential election to Trump which used, among other methods, the Facebook platform. (Hint: It's long been proven that there was.)

    As for that anti-Islamic rally, it took place in May, 2017, well after the election. There is zero conflict between these two facts: 1) The Russians actively and illegally tried to help Trump win the 2016 election; and 2) before, during, and since the election, Russia does its best to divide Americans, sow distrust in our political system, weaken our influence abroad, etc.

    Simply saying that 2) is true does not disprove 1). They're both true.
     
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  4. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    He's also one of those sociopaths who should have been weeded out. Background checks and interviews, please.
     
  5. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Trump hasn't just broken liberals.

    George Will is now touting Eric Garcetti:

     
  6. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    [Trump] voiced no concern that a foreign power had been trying for nearly four years to upend American democracy, much less resolve to stop it from continuing to do so this year.

    “It is astonishing to me that a president of the United States would take this so lightly or see it purely through the prism of domestic partisanship,” said Daniel Fried, a career diplomat under presidents of both parties who is now at the Atlantic Council.


    Trump’s Conspicuous Silence Leaves a Struggle Against Russia Without a Leader
     
  7. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    That's the worst part. This one was so fucking obvious. Mass shooters don't always throw up all the obvious sociopath warning signs, but this one did.
     
  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Here's one for @BTExpress:

    When asked whether the U.S. interferes in other countries’ elections, James Woolsey said, “Well, only for a very good cause in the interests of democracy."

    “Oh, probably, but it was for the good of the system in order to avoid communists taking over,” he told Laura Ingraham on her Fox News show on Friday night.


     
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  9. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    Yep. What's wrong with a background check and a regular psych profile for gun ownership?

    "Well-regulated militia!"
     
  10. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    You proposed it. You should explain how it would be paid for. There is nothing despicable about it and you are flat-out lying when you claim that it is an example of people resisting the idea of increased school security. You are also either lying or ignorant if you think it would be easy or cheap.

    It also doesn't diminish the need for better mental healthcare and better gun control regulations, two things the party you love doesn't truly support. They talk about the mass shootings as a mental health issue to take pressure off the NRA and its sycophants, but their actions show that mental health is a low priority, if it matters at all to Republicans.

    Please, let us know when you are ready to have an honest conversation. It would be a lovely change of pace.
     
  11. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    Reposting for @YankeeFan, who apparently missed this refutal of his allegation.
     
  12. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    And that, ladies and gentlemen, is that.
     
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