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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    No one has yet credibly alleged that Russia "rigged" the election. The evidence that Russia spent much time and money trying to swing the election to Trump is overwhelming. I realize this distinction is too subtle for Trump himself, but don't bring it 'round here.
     
  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Nah. They tried to undermine the victory of the expected winner, Hillary Clinton. They attempted to rile up Sanders and Trump supporters, to believe the election had been "rigged" and "stolen".

    They knew such an atmosphere would make it difficult for a new president to govern.

    And, when Trump unexpectedly won, they switched gears, and began undermining his victory, for the same reasons, and with the assistance of democrats and the media, they acheived their goal, even though the candidate they expected to win lost.
     
  3. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

  4. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  5. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    To be fair, the mains stream media may have only accidentally colluded with the Russians to undermine our newly elected President:

     
  6. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member



    Van der Swaan is a European lawyer who father-in-law is one of those shady Russian oligarchs.
     
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    @Inky_Wretch, you should really offer your assistance to some major news orgs, so they don't keep embarrassing themselves:

     
  8. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Eh, that's nothing compared to the ethnic cleansing of the native peoples to create room so they could own people.

    Not too many counties have that nice double whammy to get them started.
     
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  9. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

     
  10. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    And, he was working with former Obama Administration officials Greg Craig and Clifford Sloan.

    But, hey, I'm glad they aren't ignoring lying to the FBI, or letting lawyers off the hook.

    I can't wait for Christopher Steele, who we know lied to the FBI about talking to the media, is indicted, and hopefully Marc Elias, of Perkins Coie, goes down too.

    Prosecutors on the case want to question members of the Skadden team who came to Ukraine to work on the report, including former Obama Administration officials Gregory Craig and Clifford Sloan, as well as the London-based associate Alex Van der Zwaan, the Russian-speaking son-in-law of Russian oligarch German Khan, who prosecutors say acted as an intermediary for the team on much of the trip.

    Court orders show that Gorbatyuk’s team has received access to phone records from the team’s time in Kyiv, showing their communications with Yanukovych government and Party of Regions officials.

    “Law firms and lawyers are often professional enablers,” said Daria Kaleniuk, head of the Anti-Corruption Action Center. “Lawyers are able to enable money laundering because they are protected by attorney-client privilege, meaning that they can say they are just representing their client’s interests, and not helping them commit any wrongdoing.”

    “But in fact lawyers have to also verify their clients and have to see who is behind the legal entities to whom they are providing services,” she added.


    Justice Ministry investigation nets unexpected $567,000 windfall for state budget | KyivPost
     
  12. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

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    They keep saying you're undermining me. Then why am I never mad at you?
     
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