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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Damn kids running social media!

    That photo isn't even on the actual story.
     
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  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    But none of the warfare (including an Indian attack in 1675 that succeeded in butchering a full one-fourth of the white population of Connecticut, and claimed additional thousands of casualties throughout New England) on either side amounted to genocide. Colonial and, later, the American government, never endorsed or practiced a policy of Indian extermination; rather, the official leaders of white society tried to restrain some of their settlers and militias and paramilitary groups from unnecessary conflict and brutality.

    Moreover, the real decimation of Indian populations had nothing to do with massacres or military actions, but rather stemmed from infectious diseases that white settlers brought with them at the time they first arrived in the New World.

    UCLA professor Jared Diamond, author of the universally acclaimed bestseller "Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies," writes:

    "Throughout the Americas, diseases introduced with Europeans spread from tribe to tribe far in advance of the Europeans themselves, killing an estimated 95 percent of the pre-Columbian Native American population.
    The most populous and highly organized native societies of North America, the Mississippian chiefdoms, disappeared in that way between 1492 and the late 1600's, even before Europeans themselves made their first settlement on the Mississippi River (page 78)....

    "The main killers were Old World germs to which Indians had never been exposed, and against which they therefore had neither immune nor genetic resistance. Smallpox, measles, influenza, and typhus rank top among the killers." (page 212).

    "As for the most advanced native societies of North America, those of the U.S. Southeast and the Mississippi River system, their destruction was accomplished largely by germs alone, introduced by early European explorers and advancing ahead of them" (page 374).

    Michael Medved - Reject the Lie of White "Genocide" Against Native Americans
     
  3. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    this is an insane lie


     
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    In December 2016.
     
  5. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Phew.
     
  6. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Read up on the Trail of Tears and the broken treaties and massacres of Native Americans. It might not fit the textbook definition of "genocide" but it's horseshoes and hand grenades close enough.
     
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  7. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Ah, germ warfare. Even better!

    Pull that shit today, and Nikki Haley marches pictures around the U.N., condemning your ass.
     
  8. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    If you can't trust a C-list movie critic about biological anthropology.......
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I've been a little flip (shocking, I know), but I tend to get a little chippy with any appeal to authority presented as argument. Regarding Jefferson and his ilk, there are three general buckets that you can place the arguments based upon their statements:

    Bucket 1
    We should listen to what Jefferson and his ilk say because adhering to the original intent of the Constitution is the most intellectually honest and tenable manner in which to interpret and enforce the document that stands as the law of the land.

    This is a legitimate argument.

    Bucket 2
    We should listen to what Jefferson and his ilk say because we might glean something useful from it, on the merits of their statements.

    This is a legitimate argument.

    This goes for anything anybody says. If Katy Perry says something really useful about governance that stands on its own, we should also pay attention. That said, given their unique perspective, I recognize that Jefferson and his ilk are more likely than Katy Perry to say something really useful about governance. If you are short on time and deciding whether to read up on Thomas Jefferson's thoughts on governance and Katy Perry's thoughts on governance, you should probably pick Jefferson, from an efficiency standpoint.

    Bucket 3
    We should listen to what Jefferson and his ilk say because OMG they are so smart and, fuck you, I just threw down the Jefferson card. Mic drop.

    Fuck this argument.
     
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  11. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Didn't he also organize the child sex pizza parties?
     
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  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Yeah, walnut sauce, and dirty tissues handkerchiefs, that were returned to him.
     
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