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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    But, but, but we've been told how strong Trump is against Russia!
     
  2. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Don't most SC cases come down to the rights of the individual v. the rights of the collective? Should an individual right be valued over the common good? Maybe the preamble of the Constitution isn't "law" but if you are an "originalist" it seems pretty clear that everything that follows should be viewed with the framers intent to protect "the people" more than any particular person. If an issue potentially exposes more people to harm than it may protect - it seems like a no-brainer.
     
  3. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I do not in any way, shape, or form want the Supreme Court taking on these kind of calculations. Not its job.
     
  4. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    True that, I did not state it properly. Paperwork, background check, interview, and a total of $700 gets you through the ATF. Then you get into the various state laws regarding full auto weapons.

    How to Get a Class 3 Firearms License
     
  5. Neutral Corner

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  7. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    Obviously they're searching for those 33K deleted emails from Hilliary. Yeah, that's it.

    So when does he (and by extension, SHYFS) get out of "It happened during Obama's watch, blame him" mode and do something?
     
  8. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    Apologies if this is a d_b, since I chose to bypass the usual morning discussion of YF's circular logic.

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  9. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    I've long read the 2nd Amendment as a guard against government tyranny; that is, if citizens are armed, it makes it a hell of a lot harder for the government (local, state, federal) to do whatever it pleases.

    Which is why I say: Strip the cops of their AR-15s, then strip the citizens. Whatever cops get, we should get to have.
     
  10. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member


    You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not.

    And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
     
  11. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Kind of.

    In Colonial times and thereafter, there was an entrenched fear of standing, central Armies. People trusted locally organized militias instead and, in fact, the notes from the Constitutional Convention contain all kind of arcane propositions to check the central government's ability to maintain a standing army.

    The Amendment was genuinely written in order to protect the existence of these local militias. Unfortunately, it wasn't written that way.
     
  12. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    This is no different than any one of a dozen right-wing columns that have been written in the last two weeks alone explaining that gun rights advocacy is cultural as much as it is anything else.

    Your theory that advocates for stricter gun regulations are simply looking to score a "nanny nanny boo boo" against deer hunters is madness.
     
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