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2018 NFL Draft

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Alma, Apr 19, 2018.

  1. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    I miss the days when draft threads weren’t taken over by Steeelers fans discussing a botched pick.
     
  2. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I'm not one to blindly accept received wisdom, at all. But I also don't think everyone else is stupid.
     
  3. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

    Ya know you're free to generate discussion, too. Ya got a team? They make a pick? Ya happy with it? Sad? Need a slim jim? Talk it out, bro.
     
  4. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

  5. TyWebb

    TyWebb Well-Known Member

    I'm being torn apart inside by the Patriots selecting so many former Bulldogs recently.
     
  6. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I could post that Tom Brady is a pretty good quarterback and you'd argue that I don't really know that, either.
     
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  7. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Wanna borrow one of my Terrible Towels to wipe away those tears?
     
  8. albert777

    albert777 Active Member

    Not sure what you mean by this. I loved the Saints' pick, and the fact that they moved up and got a guy they really wanted and really need. A good edge pass rusher is the missing piece in the Saints' defense, and Davenport should complement Cam Jordan nicely. With Brees now at age 39, Saints are in a win-now mode and trading up in the first round to get a QB who's going to sit on the bench for two years didn't make sense to me.
     
  9. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Scouting is hard. Very hard. But much of what scouts have been criticized for on this board isn't for being wrong, but for being self (or organization)- serving in anonymous quotes which may or may not be their real opinions. It's not on them so much as for those journalists and media outlets who run those quotes without noting their questionable veracity.
     
  10. dirtybird

    dirtybird Well-Known Member

    Postmodern? Fans questioning coaches/team management/decisions/etc. is probably modern, postmodern and historic. It's part of the fabric of how we interact with sports. People who know less question the understanding of people who know more. Shit, we've had columnists antagonize subjects since damn near forever. And those columnists probably knew less than many writers now.

    As for questioning scouts (and I guess mocking draft grades), it's built into the way we consume either of those things. People read the grades, even though they're in essence a historical record to undercut the writers' expertise. We only interact with scouts' work in a small way, not seeing the 100s of deeply boring assessments and really not even knowing who they are. The bombastic proclamation (Lamar Jackson to WR or Josh Allen anything) or the takedown always sticks in people's minds. And when enough of those stick, they become the defining characteristic. It's also a matter of, these things come across with certainty, despite the fact any endeavor in spots, is by nature wildly uncertain. Unsurprisingly, enough wrong definitive proclamations and laypeople will mock (I oddly think that while we see postmodern writers more critical of the finer points, they've more rarely been the ones to claim they could do this or that. I've more often seen that from someone like Jason Whitlock or Clay Travis, politics aside, who represent the old guard of sports writer the new ones throw stones at).
     
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  11. The jury is still out on Watt. He disappeared a LOT last year. A lot. He made some splash plays and looked to come at the end of the season, but I'm sure if its because he's good or just better than the depth in front and behind him.
    This year will tell.
    Yeah, you can't tell about injuries, but they count. Shazier missed as many games as he played. Not a typical bust, but a lost pick for sure.

    CD can back to 2010,11 and 12, but since then there's been a lot more misses than hits with the 1st pick.

    W/O looking it up, I'm pretty sure Steelers took Watt well above where the experts expected him to go.. Same with Dupree. I think both positions still had players on the board rated then higher, the Steelers overlooked. ... So what?

    I look at how well Va. Tech defenders - under Foster - do at the NFL. How many make the grade?

    I think OSU LBs and Secondary players are a safe bet. Same with Georgia LBs and RBs; safe to solid bets.
     
  12. Hermes

    Hermes Well-Known Member

    Are you questioning the Cool Kids-Industrial Complex Theory?
     
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