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Running North Korea freakout thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Pete, Jan 17, 2018.

  1. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    You hate Peyton Manning. You're most definitely a bad guy.

    Back to the point: There are no good guys. There are only guys (and gals) who look after their country's (or their personal) interests, and the means in which they go about it puts them on a scale ranging from bad to worse.

    A dictator who kisses our ass is a good guy. One who refuses to is a bad guy. Regardless of anything else they do.

    Boris Yeltsin attacked his own Parliament. Allowed oligarchs to pillage his country's assets and caused a humanitarian crisis no modern country has ever seen in times of peace.

    We fucking loved him.
     
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  2. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    Of the million reasons why most American voters didn't want Trump to become POTUS, the fact that he could end up leading nuclear diplomacy tops the list.
     
  3. QYFW

    QYFW Well-Known Member

    I don’t hate Peyton. I just like pointing out how overrated he is.
     
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  4. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

  5. Pete

    Pete Well-Known Member

    John Bolton. Uh oh.
     
  6. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    I'm so glad that my son isn't in the military.
     
  7. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    Does he live in Hawaii? Or perhaps somewhere along the entire West Coast?

    The potential danger zone extends a bit beyond just "the military" here.
     
  8. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    He's in Birmingham with us. I think our chances are about as good as it gets, not that I want to find out. I suppose that I think that way because he was very seriously talking about joining the Marines coming out of high school. He had a car wreck in April of his senior year that ended that.
     
  9. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I was fascinated by this last night when they first arrived. The photos of them together, with Kim walking into South Korea were stunning.

    I think it took someone like Jae-in Moon for this to happen. He campaigned on engagement of North Korea, which was controversial, and he was very open to this and patient in making it happen.

    At the same time, Kim is obviously a dictator, and the North Koreans have a history of teasing South Korea, only to find a reason to back away and get belligerent again.

    I am hoping that the time is right and economically things have gotten bad enough for Kim and his allies that it's a bit like when the Berlin Wall came down. I am worried that while it took someone like Moon to get even this done, he may be too much of a dupe, wanting reunification so badly that he is going to let Kim jerk him around. Hopefully he has a form of "love, but don't trust," or "trust but verify" in him.
     
  11. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    The push-pull aspect of North Korea's policy towards the South is decades old. It is possible Kim's acceptance of outreach stems from confidence in his grip at home (always top priority for a dictator) and his apparent belief the DPRK now has a credible nuclear arsenal. I (and many people who study this for a living) wonder about that, seeing as how testing demolished their test site, but if he believes it, that's all that counts. Kim certainly is acting like someone who sees himself a holding a winning hand.
     
  12. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    It could also be someone who is finding himself being squeezed financially, and his grip on power being tenuous enough that he realizes he won't be able to hang on, because he is finding himself short of enough graft to hand out domestically. So he's now ready to play nice enough to change that.
     
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