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Today in Cultural Appropriation

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by MisterCreosote, May 2, 2018.

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  1. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

    Talk about cultural appropriation. We all know Jesus Christ and Santa Claus are white.

    Seriously, that might be the biggest cultural appropriation ever: Europeans turning JC into a white guy and not a middle eastern man.
     
    CD Boogie, May 9, 2018
    #385
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  2. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    We Never Lost It /ahh, the religious bumper sticker wars of the '70s lol
     
    Songbird, May 9, 2018
    #386
  3. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    How about Bob Costas?

    [ducks]

    Joe Buck?
     
    Slacker, May 9, 2018
    #387
  4. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I get the intended joke. ... But actually, that likely is a vestige of slavery. If you follow history (for example, this was in 12 Years a Slave), it was common for white slave owners to do Sunday prayer services for their slaves, and use it to brainwash the slaves into not being rebellious -- with a reading of Christianity built into it that made it normal for the blacks to be slaves. ... in between the "find your comfort in Jesus" stuff.

    Now skip ahead several generations. Whatever the genesis (no pun intended) of so many blacks today being Christian, that is the reality many blacks know. To me, for example, spinning ourselves into circles about how their ancestors were robbed of their "culture," and appropriated a religion their slave owners forced them to, serves no practical purpose. And the typical black person born in 1980 or 1990 doesn't really care. A given person might just know his or her baptist church. Not the generational history that led to him or her belonging to that baptist church.
     
    The Big Ragu, May 9, 2018
    #388
  5. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Does it have to be one or the other? Can't it be both?

    How about, "I thought the movie was really funny then. I think it's really funny --- and really racist --- now."
     
    BTExpress, May 9, 2018
    #389
  6. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    But some of them might be Christian males. I thought you wanted someone else to lead the discussion.
     
    Alma, May 9, 2018
    #390
  7. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    Up to you.
     
    PCLoadLetter, May 9, 2018
    #391
  8. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    I'm happy to let folks of color lead the discussion, whatever their religious conviction.

    I'm happy to let women run the discussion, likewise.

    As stated, however, male Christianity has had the mic for quite a while.

    If you're still talking after 1693 years, maybe take a breath and sit for a minute.
     
    Azrael, May 9, 2018
    #392
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  9. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Racial humor is really hard to do well. It’s also very easy to botch. And that has been the case for a long time.

    I think, recently, Dave Chappelle might have been the best at it. Also, I rewatched Hamlet 2 not too long ago, and that also did a really good job with the humor between the white and Latino students.

    It’s quite evident that humility and self-deprecation go a long way when doing racial humor.
     
    MisterCreosote, May 9, 2018
    #393
  10. lakefront

    lakefront Well-Known Member

    This liberal says the majority of it is silly and I think it's a case of the extreme having a loud voice. There are great points to consider about our whiteness that has been said here, and most of us think sharing cultures is a good thing.
     
    lakefront, May 9, 2018
    #394
  11. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    "Lead the discussion," alone here (and you've used it a couple times), seems like an empty platitude to me without further explanation.

    Let us in on how you conceptualize this. What does "lead the discussion" mean, in practical terms? What does it mean on the ground?
     
    Dick Whitman, May 9, 2018
    #395
  12. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    I think what it might mean on a message board like this, for example, is a black woman articulating a point of view.

    Or maybe it means following lots and lots of folks of color on Twitter to explore their different perspectives.

    Or letting your African-American best friend tell you in detail how the culture and politics of America sit with him. Do this without interrupting or defending or judging his story.

    Just letting other people talk for a change without being defensive or judgmental would be a great first step.
     
    Azrael, May 9, 2018
    #396
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