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Smoke up losers

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Jun 6, 2014.

  1. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Chuckling. Only in New York ...
     
  2. DocTalk

    DocTalk Active Member

    Adverse Effects of Cannabis on Adolescent Brain Development: A Longitudinal Study | Cerebral Cortex | Oxford Academic
    https://www.biologicalpsychiatryjournal.com/article/S0006-3223(18)31257-5/fulltext
    https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/e548/568780389835de77da7512dfb8b6c5aca3b9.pdf

    Just a little of the recent research discussing safety or lack thereof, related to marijuana use in adolescents.

    Legalization will have to balance societal risk reward. Hope smarter minds learn from the alcohol experience.
     
  3. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    That's one of my biggest problems with the pro-legalization crowd. They're usually the same ones decrying the marketing tactics of "Big Tobacco" and trying to eradicate cigarette smoking because of its societal costs, while at the same time insisting marijuana smoke is some sort of benevolent substance that has no negative effects whatsoever.
     
  4. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    Batman, have you ever smoked a joint and gotten high? @YankeeFan? @doctorquant?

    I'm always interested in the opinions of those who oppose pot, but not if they haven't tried it.
     
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  5. Just the facts ma am

    Just the facts ma am Well-Known Member

    Thanks for your contributions to the board, Doc. IMHO posting a link to a medical journal article written in "docspeak" is not informative, interesting or entertaining.
     
  6. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    I don’t know where you got the idea that I “oppose” pot. I don’t partake, but that’s because it’s illegal. I don’t think it should be illegal (except for minors, etc.).
     
  7. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    Fair enough!

    But have you ever tried it?
     
  8. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Sure. Only a handful of times, but I can see the allure.

    As far as why I didn’t do it much when I was of the age ... Growing up there were the kids who, if they did anything, they got caught. I was one of those. Toilet paper some other kid’s yard? The police would be knocking on my door at 3 a.m. Try to float a check for a day? Overdrawn. So I just knew that if I smoked some I’d get caught and my life would be over (that was the if-you-get-caught narrative in my day).

    Plus ... I liked beer an awfully lot.

    If it’s ever legal, I’ll probably grow some. I grow too much basil, anyway.
     
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  9. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    Cool, thanks. I'd vote for pot over alcohol anytime.

    Nobody who tokes up beats his wife or kills others with a car like drinkers do. Also, cookies and cake taste even better!
     
  10. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    I have not. Not once. And I never will. I don't drink, either.
    How that disqualifies me from recognizing the dangers of using and abusing those products escapes me. That's like saying I can't cover a football team because I never played the game.

    Besides, I'm willing to go with the flow on pot legalization. If states decide to legalize it and regulate its production and use -- while still criminalizing the bad things that come with abusing it, such as DUIs -- then whatever. It's the will of the people. I don't think there will be a law passed mandating that everyone toke up, so it doesn't affect me too much.

    What's always annoyed me about the pro-legalization crowd is:
    1) How they never shut the fuck about it. Get one of them on the subject and it's like you've invited a Patchouli-smelling Jehovah's Witness into your home. For even more fun, cross thread the pro-pot discussion with one on the rules and limits of police searches. Those fuckers will talk until next November.
    2) Their inability to remember their own name half the time, but they can cite some obscure study from a grad student at Berkeley in 1957 detailing the benefits of daily marijuana usage.
    3) As I noted earlier, how they're usually the same folks who are trying to abolish cigarette smoking without once acknowledging that this other type of smoking is probably just as harmful.
    They're like Vegans, except with Hippie Lettuce instead of regular lettuce.
     
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  11. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

    Fair enough. But your numbered points are bullshit.

    Also, if you've never tried pot (or alcohol), you can't analyze it like you can a football game. It's not a visual study.
     
  12. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    So I can't point out that alcoholism and DUIs are terrible side effects of using alcohol? Or that a lot of the effects of pot use seem to mirror those of alcohol, both short- and long-term?
    I'm not critiquing different strains of weed, or whether Craft Beer A is better than Craft Beer B. If that was the case, then fair enough. I'll turn down the job offer from High Times. I'm pointing out obvious facts.
     
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