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The Athletic keeps growing .......

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Fran Curci, Feb 3, 2018.

  1. boundforboston

    boundforboston Well-Known Member

    A few more college beat hires will be announced shortly. Aggressive expansion.
     
  2. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    Hire Ruben!
     
  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Given what we can glean about how much they are spending, 100,000+ subscribers will need to be a start toward many, many more.

    It was interesting, a rival editor estimating that “the Athletic offered his employees between 15% and 36% markups on their six-figure salaries to join the company.”

    But that just means that they are going to need that many more subscribers to cover the cash burn. They have gotten themselves into a very tough business. I really hope they find a market for it and succeed. They are banking heavily on content, and if they are onto something with the potential to profit, I think that is the right path to success. If not, at least they are playing with other people's money.
     
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  4. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    If they hit on a successful business model, there’s also the risk of a competitor duplicating it and watering down the market (taking away customers).
     
  5. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    That's always a risk when you are doing something that isn't really proprietary.

    But there is a lot of worth in being first. Someone without money is going to find it difficult to raise the money to try to compete with someone who was there first. And also, a big part of their strategy seems to have been to snatch up talent from a struggling industry. Again, that was a benefit of being first. There is less of that talent left out there for someone trying to duplicate them.

    Really, that only leaves an established media player who might feel threatened by what the Athletic is doing. And their choice would be to try to start up something from scratch to compete with them. ... or just buy them. 95 percent of the time it makes more sense to try to do the acquisition, not the least of which is that then you are not left having to try to compete with them.
     
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  6. lcjjdnh

    lcjjdnh Well-Known Member

    Is adding people on these marginal beats going to help? Seems like it’s adding additional expenses without any guaranteed of increased subscribers. (And that the more things they cover might paradoxically make them less likely to be a destination site.). What exactly is the plan for getting the critical mass of subscribers needed to sustain this long term?
     
  7. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    I'm betting on it too, being a subscriber. But one part of that story bothered me:

    The Athletic has shown flexibility around its paywall in attempts to hire big-name writers. When it tried to woo National Football League writer Peter King away from Sports Illustrated earlier this year, it offered Mr. King the option of putting his Monday morning column outside the paywall, a person familiar with the matter said. Mr. King eventually opted to take a job at Comcast Corp.’s NBC.

    I hadn't heard of any paywall flexibility, and I think that should be an absolute no-no. You're wooing Peter King because his column brings big eyeballs, so if you hire him (with a commensurate salary) how on Earth do you just give away his product? The King junkies who have to have the MMQB will pay for it. Sure, not all of them will, but so be it. The whole point of this shebang is to get people to pay for premium content. All the content.
     
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  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I have no idea -- if those beats are "marginal," as you are characterizing them . ... or if those beats are going to boost the bottom line . I am sure they believe they are additive.
     
  9. lcjjdnh

    lcjjdnh Well-Known Member

    I guess my point is that I assume the big expenses are salaries and travel for each new beat writer. Is every new one bringing in enough subscribers to cover that—whether because they’re independently that valuable, or because they’re adding enough value for the “bundle” that people will pay for it even if not exclusively to read that person’s work? There are obviously great economies of scale possible, since there’s very little cost in adding new subscribers. But they still need to get the critical mass to cover their costs first.

    I think it’d be great if it succeeds, and I’ve enjoyed my subscription this far, but I’m a bit skeptical that adding some new college beats is what will turn the tides.
     
  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Yup. It's the $30 million dollar question (for their investors). As a general proposition, I do believe that content is king. It always has been. That doesn't necessarily mean that they are providing the right content, or content for which there is enough demand.
     
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  11. MNgremlin

    MNgremlin Active Member

    My opinion: They may be "marginal beats" to some, but to others, it could represent one of the few platforms that offers coverage of that particular beat. You may not get interest from those who already subscribe or the more "common" fan of the major sports, but you open up the site to an entirely new audience. Is it guaranteed? Of course not, but nothing is.
     
  12. Reddy235

    Reddy235 Member

    Did we not just see what happened with those Cox sites? They covered the hell out of some very big colleges and went belly up. Now, we think people are going to sign up in droves to pay for content on these same teams? Lotsa luck
     
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