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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Not true. Not true at all.
    His last post was an absolute harmless comment warning me about the banhammer. Obviously it offended one important person. It’s always that same important person.
     
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  2. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    Remember when that person was just another poster without a moderator button?

    Better times.
     
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  3. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    Endorsement less than three hours before polls closed.

     
  4. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Some people who get a taste for power tend to get punchy.
     
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  5. lcjjdnh

    lcjjdnh Well-Known Member

    I have yet to see any credible evidence that Trump had anything to do with the DOJ's decision to pursue this action. Indeed, Judge Leon earlier in the case denied AT&T's request to see additional communications logs on the grounds that it had "fallen short of establishing that this enforcement action was selective" and that "defendants have not made a 'credible showing' that they have been 'especially singled out' [by the DOJ]."

    To the contrary, I think that career staff in the DOJ Antitrust Division were skeptical of the Comcast-NBCU merger to begin with--and that they further soured on it based on their experience with the consent decree that had been put in place instead. Notably, as I mentioned before, a very large number of the career DOJ officials signed the complaint--which is pretty rare. I interpreted that as a sign that they wanted to indicate that they were standing behind the lawsuit, and that it wasn't being motivated by political concerns. (Contrast this was the recent administration brief arguing that the ACA is now unconstitutional, where the career DOJ officials who had been working on the matter withdrew from the case before the brief was filed.)
     
  6. Human_Paraquat

    Human_Paraquat Well-Known Member

  7. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    No evidence, except for Trump's tweets, his constant crap about CNN and then his selective use of his DOJ to attack his perceived enemies. But other than that, yup, you can claim plausible deniability because I don't have tape recordings of Trump threatening someone if they didn't go through with the litigation.

    The head of the DOJ anti-trust division is a hyena named Makan Delrahim. Before Trump was president, he was on the record that he saw no problem with the merger, which wasn't surprising, because the DOJ NEVER goes after vertical integrations of non competitors (why this case failed). Then Trump came in, was making constant comments about the merger on the campaign trail and consistently was going to war with CNN -- fake news! Then. ... the stories that the Justice Department tried to strong arm them into having to sell CNN if they wanted the deal to pass their corrupt muster. ... and Trump said, "I didn't make that decision. ... it was made by a very, very respected person." i.e. Makan Delrahim.

    As for the judge not letting the trial get into whether this was selective enforcement on political grounds, he just wanted to avoid touching that. ... so he let them lose the case on its merits (or in their case, the lack of merit). It doesn't mean that this wasn't corrupt nonsense, beyond the typical anti-trust nonsense. But that shouldn't surprise anyone who has watched this presidency, and Trump using the office vindictively and like he has a fiefdom.
     
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  8. Jake from State Farm

    Jake from State Farm Well-Known Member

    I now understand the foundation of Trump’s foreign policy:

     
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  9. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

  10. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Or perhaps he was banned for something he did before his last post, or for a post that has since been deleted.
     
  11. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    If it's who I assume you're talking about, that's a hell of a long time ago. He was already a mod before I signed up 13 years ago.
     
  12. lcjjdnh

    lcjjdnh Well-Known Member

    And the 29 members of the DOJ Antitrust Division's Telecom and Broadband Division all signed their names to the complaint why?

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1012896/download

    The nonsense about DOJ telling them they had to sell CNN seems to have clearly been planted by AT&T flacks to take advantage of the media's anti-Trump bias. The NYT and WSJ both reported the more nuanced story that DOJ instead requested that they either sell all of Turner Broadcasting or DirectTV. So you do appear to be disseminating "fake news."

    I certainly don't like Trump and don't necessarily agree with the DOJ's position. But, as usual, your endless ranting and raving is not supported by evidence.
     
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