Shooting at Las Vegas casino

Whether the shooter used a full auto AR conversion or a bump stock which fires nearly as quickly simply did not matter to the poor bastards who found themselves human targets downrange.

 

One would think that this quote would be the thrust of the conversation.

 

Who said it did?

It was about cautioning people, including journalists, from getting out ahead of the facts.

 

I'm not a journalist, but when I heard the audio from the shootings, I ID'd it as full auto. It wasn't, it was ARs with bumpstocks.

The point is that it is a distinction without any functional difference.

 

We settled this back then. It was automatic fire. Modified weapon, automatic fire. The End.

 

Every American with a brain SHOULD be emotional about this issue.

It's the ones who are not that we normal people should fear.

 

I like students who don't get shot up.

 

Metro PD has been ordered to release more videos.

Here’s one of one of the very first responders leading a team of three others. The senior officer is not wearing the body cam - this view is from his partner. They exit an elevator onto the 31st floor (not the 32nd), then he freezes everyone for at least three minutes. Not a good look for the PD. Reminiscent of Parkland.

You can clearly here rapid fire in the audio (and one calls it automatic fire, but let’s not start that debate back up).

Anyway, the rapid fire is harrowing, and this 3+ minute pause in the hallway is very bad.

 

So what do they end up doing? Are they still in the hallway today?

 

I see the senior officer in body armor. I assume his partner with the body cam is wearing some as well. The other two do not appear to have any. They look like hotel security. It's easy to say that they should have been more aggressive, and my personal opinion is that they should have at the very least gone up one floor to recon the situation. The other side of that is that they are significantly outgunned, and they know it. They have no way to know that there is only one shooter. We now know that he had set up one or more video cameras in the hall outside his suite covering the hallway.

I did not hear any radio calls with regard to SWAT/TAC Squad, but you know that they were notified as soon as the reports of auto fire into the crowd were called in. They may have been waiting for those guys to get on the scene.

I hesitate to talk too much shit about these guys because they did not push the hall to the shooter's door immediately. I understand that people were being shot, and that those minutes meant that dozens to hundreds of people were being killed and wounded. In an ideal world, heroic police kick the door stat and try to take him down - but they don't know anything about what they're facing, how many people, is the door blocked, etc. Their hesitation is understandable, if undesirable.

They know what they did, and they have to live with it. I'm sure that they had to deal with a review board once it was over and the investigation started. I'm not going to throw any rocks. I don't know that I'd have had the stones to try to bust into that room, knowing the sort of burst of fire that could come through that door if you didn't get in immediately.

 

This isn't a Hollywood movie. Those guys sitting there with their peashooters could not have felt too good hearing the automatic fire