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Chevy Volt a Failure - GM to Layoff 1,300

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Evil Bastard (aka Chris_L), Mar 2, 2012.

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  1. justgladtobehere

    justgladtobehere Well-Known Member

    Self-driving cars are headed toward an AI roadblock

     
    justgladtobehere, Jul 5, 2018
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  2. Scout

    Scout Well-Known Member

    We have walked on the moon and invented everything a smart phone can do.

    I think the spacing of objects on roads is not a huge hurdle.
     
    Scout, Jul 5, 2018
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  3. Just the facts ma am

    Just the facts ma am Well-Known Member

    Planes and trains currently have extensive automated controls but you will never see them without a human operator for safety reasons.

    Automobiles have orders of magnitude more variables to deal with. You will never see driverless cars and the research and investment to attain them is wasted. Driving a car is one thing that a human is superbly adapted to and there is no reason to progress beyond cruise control and rear view cameras.

     
    Just the facts ma am, Jul 6, 2018
    #2307
  4. Deskgrunt50

    Deskgrunt50 Well-Known Member

    I don't consider myself "old" yet, but I'm getting there. And I don't see any way I'm ever using a driverless car.

    Could be wrong.

    I think this has the same problem mass transit has outside of big cities -- people LOVE to drive. A large percentage won't give it up.
     
    Deskgrunt50, Jul 6, 2018
    #2308
  5. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member


    This is blue font, right?
     
    Justin_Rice, Jul 6, 2018
    #2309
  6. lcjjdnh

    lcjjdnh Well-Known Member

    Do people actually love the act of driving itself? Or do they just prefer not to commute with a mass of other people and without going point-to-point?
     
    lcjjdnh, Jul 6, 2018
    #2310
  7. FileNotFound

    FileNotFound Well-Known Member

    I love driving, and always have. I started counting the days to my 16th birthday when I was 11. Most of the bad financial decisions I've made over the years have involved cars. My kids joke that when self-driving car technology happens in my octogenarian years, they're going to put fake controls in my car so that I think I'm actually driving it.
     
    FileNotFound, Jul 6, 2018
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  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I think self-driving technology is going to be a reality fairly soon as an add on for a lot of cars, but I would guess that it isn't totally replacing manned cars anytime soon -- if ever.

    Aside from the gridlock / Manhattan think I pointed out in an earlier post, there are just too many logistical things that the companies working on it, such as Waymo, haven't figured out yet. Take a place where there is a lot of snow. The cameras those vehicles currently use to help with guidance can't see the lines on a highway when there is snow on the ground. In a heavy rain or snow storm, GPS guidance can get lost, which makes navigation impossible.

    Automated systems of all sorts are usually imperfect. There are always times when you need human intervention. Which is why I kind of scratch my head when some people make the assumption that any technology, including the ones that Waymo and others are working on, are going to perform flawlessly.

    Also, we tend to be myopic when a new technology enters our consciousness, saying, "In 20 years, everyone is going to be. ...." The thing is, we are probably missing things that are going to be realities in 10, 15, 20 years that might make the things we are anticipating right now either unnecessary or obsolete. Travel might change so dramatically in the future that people will be looking back on automobiles -- self-driving or otherwise -- the way we look at horse carriages today. I mean, what if hovercrafts of some sort become a reality, making highways as we know them obsolete?
     
    The Big Ragu, Jul 6, 2018
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  9. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member

    We can orchestrate thousands of drones to fly complicated patterns without incident to form light shows. Doing the same for cars isn't a huge leap. .... once cars are actively communicating and reporting position and vector to each other. And the technology already exists for that, but short of government mandate, how do we force older cars to adopt some form of transponder?
     
    Justin_Rice, Jul 6, 2018
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  10. swingline

    swingline Well-Known Member

    Outing alert: FileNotFound is actually Smallpotatoes.
     
    swingline, Jul 6, 2018
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  11. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    I’d prefer these things be called driving-aids. Self-driving sounds like a great way for lots of people to die.
     
    Vombatus, Jul 6, 2018
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  12. Vombatus

    Vombatus Well-Known Member

    FTFY!
     
    Vombatus, Jul 6, 2018
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