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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    You know Obama held one on one meetings with Putin, right?
     
  2. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    I could not agree more.
     
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  3. typefitter

    typefitter Well-Known Member

    Oh my God.
     
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  4. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  5. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

    Doug Ford, Rob Ford. It's not just America.
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    OK, so was Obama naïve?

    And, look, just like Trump, their meeting went over the scheduled time, because Obama thought a personal relationship with Putin would be helpful:

    President Barack Obama met for the first time Tuesday with the man most consider to be Russia’s top power broker, Prime Minister and former President Vladimir Putin — and came out of the meeting expressing a higher opinion of Putin than when he went in.
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    I’m aware of not only the extraordinary work that you’ve done on behalf of the Russian people ... as president, but in your current role as prime minister,” Obama said during a breakfast meeting at Putin’s country home on the outskirts of Moscow. “We think there’s an excellent opportunity to put U.S.-Russian relations on a much stronger footing.”

    Yet by the meeting's end, Obama had revised his assessment of Putin and is now “very convinced the prime minister is a man of today and he’s got his eyes firmly on the future,” a senior U.S. official told reporters after the meeting concluded.
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    The planned 90-minute session ran over by a half hour at Obama’s insistence, so he could be sure his relationship with Putin was on solid footing, they added.


    Obama meets with Vladimir Putin
     
  7. typefitter

    typefitter Well-Known Member

    Rob Ford was stripped of his powers by council while he was still in office.

    But agreed, it's shameful that Doug Ford became premier.
     
  8. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    YF, I simply can't write a coherent answer to you right now that does not devolve into obscene verbal abuse.

    I'm used to your "but Clinton/but Obama" schtick, but what Trump is doing this morning is completely without comparison in the history of the American Presidency.

    You need to examine your allegiances.
     
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  9. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Jeff Zeleny on CNN said that a senior white house official who is still in DC texted him saying, "How bad was that?"
     
  10. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

  11. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    I'm sure @YankeeFan will be by any second to prove to us all how good-gosh silly this is.
     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Trump, Obama and GWB all thought they could personally charm Putin, and win influence with him as a result.

    Trump will learn, the same as they did. But, all of these guys are egomaniacs, who think they can succeed where others failed.

    And, it's obviously tempting. I Russia would cooperate with us, issues like Syria, Iran, and North Korea would be far easier to solve. But, Russia wants to see us jammed up.

    And, Trump mentions things like the DNC server, and Hillary's 30,000 deleted emails. when he answers these questions because he thinks they aren't getting the attention they deserve, and know the media will have to discuss them, if he talks about them -- which just pisses the media off.
     
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