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[Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!]

Gamer dumps insanely hot GF to focus more on Call of Duty.

https://nypost.com/2018/07/23/pro-gamer-dumps-worlds-sexiest-weathergirl-for-more-call-of-duty/

 

[outofplace]

That said, I still feel confident in saying that he is an idiot.

 

[heyabbott]

Why didn't Stark build a suit for Steve Rogers, Black Widow and Hawkeye. Did he at least design the bow and arrows?

 

[outofplace]

Why didn't Stark build a suit for Steve Rogers, Black Widow and Hawkeye. Did he at least design the bow and arrows?

That is a question you could ask about the comics, too. I know a part of the story in Iron Man II was his unwillingness to share the technology, though he eventually decides to trust Rhodey with it. He suits for Spider-Man both in the comics and in the movies, though Spider-Man abandoned the Iron Spider armor fairly quickly in the books. I'm not sure if he made armor for any other Avengers in the books.

 

[JRoyal]

Why didn't Stark build a suit for Steve Rogers, Black Widow and Hawkeye. Did he at least design the bow and arrows?

Stark just doesn't trust people. He has a long relationship with Rhodey in the comics, something they mention in the movies but don't show as much, which is why he trusts him with the armor. And, remember, even in the movies, Rhodes wasn't given the armor initially. He took it when Stark was drunk and then kept it at the end of Iron Man II.

Also, the armor doesn't fit how the others operate. Black Widow is primarily about stealth, so a suit wouldn't fit with what she does. She has other tech items that round out her abilities. Captain America has his shield and enhanced strength and durability already, so he doesn't need it, especially with the trade off to his agility that he'd have to make. Hawkeye is also about stealth to a degree. All three are also well-trained in hand-to-hand combat, and armor would hinder those skills.

 

[outofplace]

Stark just doesn't trust people. He has a long relationship with Rhodey in the comics, something they mention in the movies but don't show as much, which is why he trusts him with the armor. And, remember, even in the movies, Rhodes wasn't given the armor initially. He took it when Stark was drunk and then kept it at the end of Iron Man II.

Also, the armor doesn't fit how the others operate. Black Widow is primarily about stealth, so a suit wouldn't fit with what she does. She has other tech items that round out her abilities. Captain America has his shield and enhanced strength and durability already, so he doesn't need it, especially with the trade off to his agility that he'd have to make. Hawkeye is also about stealth to a degree. All three are also well-trained in hand-to-hand combat, and armor would hinder those skills.

I think it is primarily the trust issue. Remember, in Iron Man II, Fury makes fun of the idea of Rhodey actually taking the armor. Stark allowed it to happen. In the comics, Rhodey took Stark's place as Iron Man at times. I believe that was before he got the War Machine armor.

I get what you are saying regarding the other Avengers, but why not suits more like what he made for Spider-Man? That was created to allow the wearer to take advantage of his superior agility. In both the comics and the movies, that was played as Stark seeing himself as a mentor to Peter Parker rather than considering them to be equals. That makes more sense in the movies, with Parker still being a high school student. In the comics, Parker was an adult and he had been Spider-Man for years when Stark made the Iron Spider armor.

I'm not sure if you read Civil War in the comics. I read New Avengers, which first brought Wolverine and Spider-Man into the Avengers, through Civil War, so that colors my perspective on the relationship between Stark and Parker.

 

[Batman]

Why didn't Stark build a suit for Steve Rogers, Black Widow and Hawkeye. Did he at least design the bow and arrows?

In the movies at least, I got the impression that the Avengers only occasionally came together pre-Civil War. They weren't living in Stark Tower, they just got together when duty called. And even then, there might not have been a need or a desire to give them suits.
Thor didn't need one and was hardly around anyway.
Same with Hulk. Plus, would you really want the Hulk to have Iron Man-level armor on top of what he's already bringing to the table?
Black Widow and Hawkeye had SHIELD tech or were off the grid so much that Stark likely never had a chance to design or give something to them. There might have been a level of distrust with them as well.
Cap is a blend of all of the above. Didn't need it, probably didn't want it, and would have been off the grid a lot on various missions.
Of the B-Teamers, only Falcon could have benefited from it, and maybe he got some upgrades to his wings, but by then Stark and Cap were starting to be on the outs because of the Ultron stuff. Vision essentially was a suit and Wanda wouldn't have been trusted with one. She's also powerful enough not to need one.

 

[JRoyal]

I think it is primarily the trust issue. Remember, in Iron Man II, Fury makes fun of the idea of Rhodey actually taking the armor. Stark allowed it to happen. In the comics, Rhodey took Stark's place as Iron Man at times. I believe that was before he got the War Machine armor.

I get what you are saying regarding the other Avengers, but why not suits more like what he made for Spider-Man? That was created to allow the wearer to take advantage of his superior agility. In both the comics and the movies, that was played as Stark seeing himself as a mentor to Peter Parker rather than considering them to be equals. That makes more sense in the movies, with Parker still being a high school student. In the comics, Parker was an adult and he had been Spider-Man for years when Stark made the Iron Spider armor.

I'm not sure if you read Civil War in the comics. I read New Avengers, which first brought Wolverine and Spider-Man into the Avengers, through Civil War, so that colors my perspective on the relationship between Stark and Parker.

I definitely think trust is more of the reason than anything. In the comics, he's provided more armor than people think of, but usually it's to people he trusted. You're right that Rhodey did substitute as Iron Man for a period well before he was War Machine. Pepper Potts has worn the Iron Man armor and has her own (Rescue). In the Ultimate Universe, Black Widow had a Stark suit (but her and Stark were an item in that continuity). And there's Parker and the Iron Spider.

There's precedent for other armor, though. Stark designed a weaker version that is used in super-prisons (the Guardsman armor). And there's the Mandroid armor that he designed for SHIELD. And he gave copies of the Iron Spider armor to the Scarlet Spiders post-Civil War.

I've read Civil War and beyond. And all the stuff for years before.

 

[outofplace]

I definitely think trust is more of the reason than anything. In the comics, he's provided more armor than people think of, but usually it's to people he trusted. You're right that Rhodey did substitute as Iron Man for a period well before he was War Machine. Pepper Potts has worn the Iron Man armor and has her own (Rescue). In the Ultimate Universe, Black Widow had a Stark suit (but her and Stark were an item in that continuity). And there's Parker and the Iron Spider.

There's precedent for other armor, though. Stark designed a weaker version that is used in super-prisons (the Guardsman armor). And there's the Mandroid armor that he designed for SHIELD. And he gave copies of the Iron Spider armor to the Scarlet Spiders post-Civil War.

I've read Civil War and beyond. And all the stuff for years before.

Gotcha. I asked because they laid part of the groundwork for Civil War by having Parker go to work for Stark between his joining the Avengers and Civil War. For others reading the thread who didn't read the books, the first time Parker used the Iron Spider armor was on a trip to Washington, D.C. with Stark, who was there to discuss the Superhuman Registration Act, which became the Sokovia Accords in the MCU. He talked Parker into publicly unmasking, setting up the events of "One More Day" and Spider-Man making a literal deal with the devil to make the world forget his secret identity and save Aunt May at the price of his marriage. (Also causing me to stop reading Spider-Man books for a long time.)

That is one thing I'm curious about in the comics, where they seem to be bringing Peter and Mary Jane back together. There have been hints that she remembers the deal and their marriage, but Peter does not. I'm wondering if there will be additional clarity and maybe both characters remembering everything at some point.

Don't you just love comics?

 

[outofplace]

New trailer for Venom. This one offers a better look at Venom an d at least one other bonded symbiote. Apparently, that is the relatively obscure villain Riot, not Carnage.

Maybe we see Carnage in a credits scene? Of course, by see it, I mean when the movie ends up on Netflix or on TV. I doubt I will go to the theater for this one.

 

[JRoyal]

I'm still skeptical of this working, but that trailer at least makes it look like they're attempting to be true to the comic. Well, as true as you can be while ignoring Spider-Man.

 

[outofplace]

I'm still skeptical of this working, but that trailer at least makes it look like they're attempting to be true to the comic. Well, as true as you can be while ignoring Spider-Man.

That is the problem. Spider-Man is such a huge part of Venom's story. How can it be true the comics without Spider-Man? I'm also curious how they play Eddie Brock. In the comics, he is a biscuit with questionable morals who bonds with the symbiote over their mutual hatred of Peter Parker. Obviously, they can't play it that way in the movie.

On the other hand, based on the trailer, it does also have a bit of a Robocop feel. Corporate greed leading to science run amok and the protagonist is changed by that science into something that can fight back.

Yeah, I'm still waiting for the DVD release.