President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Songbird · Aug 5, 2018

You don't inadvertently spray urine on something.

Unless maybe the stream split in 2.

Yeah, it must've been the split stream.

TigerVols · Aug 5, 2018

YankeeFan said: ↑

Now tell me again how Sarah Jeong isn't President .
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Pilot · Aug 5, 2018

Slacker said: ↑

Great pull from 13 years ago. Now do Hannity. Any night will do.
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Hey, 13 years ago isn't bad when I was expecting a Spanish-American War reference.

Guy_Incognito · Aug 5, 2018

Azrael said: ↑

So the people who elected him have no responsibility to defend him?

Or even to defend their vote?
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Did Stephens vote for him?

jr/shotglass · Aug 5, 2018

YankeeFan said: ↑

It came from a premise that the U.S. military was disrespectful of Islam.

It’s no different than the Rolling Stone story about rape at UVa.

When you write a story, in which you’ve reached your conclusion first, and then set out to find your evidence, one way or another, you don’t get to excuse it as a simple mistake.
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TigerVols · Aug 5, 2018

@YankeeFan can you please explain to us why Trump was lying to us for months about the Trump Tower meeting if there was nothing inherently wrong with having it?

Slacker · Aug 5, 2018

Hey, two wrongs don't make a right, but nobody inadvertently sets dead U.S. soldiers' bodies on fire and drags them through the streets, either.

Thoughts and prayers for the wet Koran, though.

poindexter · Aug 5, 2018

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This is silly.

Obama being born in Kenya originated in Hillary Clinton's circle of supporters. And, her campaign used it to portray him as foreign, including leaking the photo of Obama in "native garb" to Drudge.

James, Lemon, and Waters have all criticized Trump. This, in addition to all being African-American, is what they have in common. Trump claps back against people who criticize them, and calling them dumb -- in contrast to his Wharton schooling, and nuclear scientist uncle -- are one of his favorite replies, regardless of the race of the person attacking him.

Trump wants an immigration system based on merit. He wants immigrants who can add value, and find employment in the 21st century American economy. The "shithole" comment came in discussions of extending "temporary" visas for people who were here from places like Haiti, where they had suffered hurricanes, or earthquakes, sometimes as long as 17-years prior. The whole justification for continuing to extend these visas is that the countries they come from remain too much of a shithole for people to return to. So, if your argument is that they are not, in fact, a shithole, then why do they need to continue to remain here "temporarily"?

He didn't call black athletes SOBs. He called athletes who knelt during the national anthem SOBs.

The only accusations of unfair housing practices against any Trump business, pre-date his running the company.

The Times begins their narrative in 1963, when Trump is 17-years-old.

They admit that they find no evidence that he set the rental policies.

While there is no evidence that Mr. Trump personally set the rental policies at his father’s properties, he was on hand while they were in place, working out of a cubicle in Trump Management’s Brooklyn offices as early as the summer of 1968.

‘No Vacancies’ for Blacks: How Donald Trump Got His Start, and Was First Accused of Bias

It's disingenuous at best to suggest that Donald Trump -- a teenager at the time -- is responsible for the housing policies and segregation of the 1960s that were widespread, not only in New York, but across the country.

Look at Boston, Chicago, and other cities today, and you will see racial segregation that's continues to this day.

He called black workers lazy? When? Where?

The Central Park Five were convicted. That Trump believed them to be guilty is because prosecutors, and a jury, believed them to be guilty.

It's widely acknowledged that women and girls from Central America, making there way across Mexico, on their way to the U.S., are subjected to all manner of violence, including rape.

According to a stunning Fusion investigation, 80 percent of women and girls crossing into the U.S. by way of Mexico are raped during their journey. That’s up from a previous estimate of 60 percent, according to an Amnesty International report.

80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S. | HuffPost

But, Trump mentions the dangers of this journey, and the media pretends that he's calling all Mexicans rapists.

This is willfully dishonest.

He's never portrayed all Muslims as terrorists. Even his "Muslim travel ban" was never based on religion, but rather used the same list of nations, drawn up under the Obama administration, that were failed states, and which could not provide us enough information about those who might want to travel here.

Muslim nations like Saudi Arabia, and Indonesia were never included on his list, which makes it a pretty shitty "Muslim travel ban".

Elizabeth Warren is a fake Indian. She doesn't have even one drop of Native-America blood in her. She created a false narrative for herself, that she used to propel her career in academics, and politics. That you are more offended by calling this out is interesting. Folks are convinced that Tim Tebow is taking up the roster spot of some more worthy baseball player, but don't see that Elizabeth Warren was filling a spot, that an actual Native-American should have had.

Trump never called Nazis very fine people.

Honestly, if your examples of his "racism" are this wrong, if you have to resort to lies, to make your case, then it should be viewed as an admission that you have no legitimate evidence of racism, and instead are making the claim to damage him, and his reputation, for political purposes, which is disgusting.
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How does this play on the new board?

[blue font] @Stoney is right. Sportsjournalists.com *needs* this kind of analysis around here. God god, where would we be without it?

Baron Scicluna · Aug 5, 2018

YankeeFan said: ↑

A. I admire you for sticking by a guy like Typefitter, despite knowing his opinion of you.

2. You're right that LeBron's school isn't a charter. The tweet was wrong, but still funny,

iii. Just for shits and giggles, can you tell me in what ways the school might be different than other public schools, and in which it may be like a charter school?

#. If LeBron's school lives up to it's "promise", should we look to emulate its success, and its policies, in other public schools?
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Well, for starters, unlike other public schools, charter schools can kick out any student who doesn't meet their standards. LeBron's school, though, indicates that they expect to be dealing with troubled kids and will attempt to help them instead of expelling them.

They are like a charter school in that they're not open for any kid to attend. If his school is a success, do you think public schools should just be able to kick out students they don't feel are elite enough for them?

Also, the tweet wasn't funny in the least because it was not accurate. Tweets based upon truth are funny. Tweets based on lies are not.

Azrael · Aug 5, 2018

Guy_Incognito said: ↑

Did Stephens vote for him?
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Why are we conflating separate posts now?

"Conservative commentator finally writes about rhetorical incitements against the press" is a different subject than "who among conservatives on this message board will step up to defend the president's attack on two individual citizens," and were two separate posts.

Patchen · Aug 5, 2018

YankeeFan said: ↑

This is silly.

Obama being born in Kenya originated in Hillary Clinton's circle of supporters. And, her campaign used it to portray him as foreign, including leaking the photo of Obama in "native garb" to Drudge.

James, Lemon, and Waters have all criticized Trump. This, in addition to all being African-American, is what they have in common. Trump claps back against people who criticize them, and calling them dumb -- in contrast to his Wharton schooling, and nuclear scientist uncle -- are one of his favorite replies, regardless of the race of the person attacking him.

Trump wants an immigration system based on merit. He wants immigrants who can add value, and find employment in the 21st century American economy. The "shithole" comment came in discussions of extending "temporary" visas for people who were here from places like Haiti, where they had suffered hurricanes, or earthquakes, sometimes as long as 17-years prior. The whole justification for continuing to extend these visas is that the countries they come from remain too much of a shithole for people to return to. So, if your argument is that they are not, in fact, a shithole, then why do they need to continue to remain here "temporarily"?

He didn't call black athletes SOBs. He called athletes who knelt during the national anthem SOBs.

The only accusations of unfair housing practices against any Trump business, pre-date his running the company.

The Times begins their narrative in 1963, when Trump is 17-years-old.

They admit that they find no evidence that he set the rental policies.

While there is no evidence that Mr. Trump personally set the rental policies at his father’s properties, he was on hand while they were in place, working out of a cubicle in Trump Management’s Brooklyn offices as early as the summer of 1968.

‘No Vacancies’ for Blacks: How Donald Trump Got His Start, and Was First Accused of Bias

It's disingenuous at best to suggest that Donald Trump -- a teenager at the time -- is responsible for the housing policies and segregation of the 1960s that were widespread, not only in New York, but across the country.

Look at Boston, Chicago, and other cities today, and you will see racial segregation that's continues to this day.

He called black workers lazy? When? Where?

The Central Park Five were convicted. That Trump believed them to be guilty is because prosecutors, and a jury, believed them to be guilty.

It's widely acknowledged that women and girls from Central America, making there way across Mexico, on their way to the U.S., are subjected to all manner of violence, including rape.

According to a stunning Fusion investigation, 80 percent of women and girls crossing into the U.S. by way of Mexico are raped during their journey. That’s up from a previous estimate of 60 percent, according to an Amnesty International report.

80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped Crossing Into The U.S. | HuffPost

But, Trump mentions the dangers of this journey, and the media pretends that he's calling all Mexicans rapists.

This is willfully dishonest.

He's never portrayed all Muslims as terrorists. Even his "Muslim travel ban" was never based on religion, but rather used the same list of nations, drawn up under the Obama administration, that were failed states, and which could not provide us enough information about those who might want to travel here.

Muslim nations like Saudi Arabia, and Indonesia were never included on his list, which makes it a pretty shitty "Muslim travel ban".

Elizabeth Warren is a fake Indian. She doesn't have even one drop of Native-America blood in her. She created a false narrative for herself, that she used to propel her career in academics, and politics. That you are more offended by calling this out is interesting. Folks are convinced that Tim Tebow is taking up the roster spot of some more worthy baseball player, but don't see that Elizabeth Warren was filling a spot, that an actual Native-American should have had.

Trump never called Nazis very fine people.

Honestly, if your examples of his "racism" are this wrong, if you have to resort to lies, to make your case, then it should be viewed as an admission that you have no legitimate evidence of racism, and instead are making the claim to damage him, and his reputation, for political purposes, which is disgusting.
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Credulous

lakefront · Aug 5, 2018

Alma said: ↑

In fact, he did some of the same shit.
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But, what are those same things. Good time to have details for this. I hear this but but I don't know the specifics.

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