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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. lakefront

    lakefront Well-Known Member

    I think one reason may be that we have gone way to the opposite side of how we treat them. The Vietnam situation was ugly, now we honor them every day all day. Thank them for their service at every opportunity. That is nice and it makes the people who do that feel warm and fuzzy. BUT, these people are not all one person. Some are rapists, they bring drugs, but I assume some are good people. Kidding!!! But seriously the military has the same assortment of good and bad guys that the civilian side does. Possibly more bad guys since the military has always been a last resort for some people who can not make it on their own.
    I would just remind that one, every time you get the chance, that trump lies to them every day, many times a day. It has to sink in, eventually.
     
  2. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Does anyone else think that @Smallpotatoes makes up these "friends"?
     
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  3. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Sebastian Junger wrote a book called "Tribe: On Homecoming and Belonging." In it, he argues the constant praise we heap upon the military now isolates them and never lets them fully reintegrate into society as a whole.
     
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  4. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    I assume that the smallpotatoes character is just a long con by somebody who has a lot of time on their hands.
     
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  5. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

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  6. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry, but the fact that a) you knew just where to find that and b) you felt the need to post it -- it's a little bit pathetic.
     
  7. melock

    melock Well-Known Member

     
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  8. typefitter

    typefitter Well-Known Member

    Good morning and thank you for a more reasoned response. The easy line was that I am dumb and yet also don't like Trump, making me something of a unicorn, which is fine and a shot I might have taken, too. What you're saying here doesn't run counter to my thesis at all as far as I can see, which included a proviso that of course there are exceptions. A lot of people who voted for Trump are dumb, we seem to agree. (None more dumb than the crowd that shows up for his rallies.) Some smart people voted for him, too. I also said that. I suggested that smart people who voted for Trump did so for economic or financial reasons. They have money and they saw him as the best candidate for them to keep their money or make more of it. For the very rich, at least, they don't appear to have been wrong in their assessments. And I understand voting that way—I wouldn't have done it or do it myself, but intellectually, I understand greed or selfishness or power as a motivator.

    But for me, those are the most dangerous voters, and I do believe they are the ones who fucked up the pre-election polling. They wouldn't want to admit to voting for Trump. They probably wouldn't admit to it now especially. But in the sanctum of the voting booth, they looked at Trump and they looked at Clinton and they decided: He'll be better for my bottom line. Again, that's not an uncommon reason for voting one way or another. They were smart and did their own personal cost-benefit analysis. But if you voted for Trump when you knew he was an unqualified candidate and would be the awful president he has become, then shame on you the most. It's not a sin to be dumb. The sin is knowing better. There are millions of smart, affluent American who enabled this motherfucker so they could buy an Audi one day instead of a Toyota, and that sort of short-sighted, selfish individual calculus makes me want to puke.
     
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  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

  10. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    You know this site has a search function, right?

    The whole thread, from which it sprung, is interesting too, especially for people who weren't around back then.

    Writer Cat Fight
     
  11. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    I'll save you the trouble of searching for this one, which you, ahem, apparently missed.

     
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  12. lakefront

    lakefront Well-Known Member

    Oh yeah, it is totally possible that people make up families, jobs etc. After all how can people have such full lives and post 50,000 times on a message board?
     
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