President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Justin_Rice · Aug 9, 2018

melock said: ↑

He is elite.
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But he pretends he's against abortion, so that's probably good enough.

garrow · Aug 9, 2018

melock said: ↑

He is elite.
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We call the one on the right "Trump Tower."

heyabbott · Aug 9, 2018

lcjjdnh said: ↑

The Bonds thing really should shock the conscience, although was fortunately reversed. This single “non-responsive” answer was the basis of his obstruction of justice conviction. Scary.

http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2015/04/22/11-10669.pdf
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You’llnever Gets ‘no response’ from trump. He’ll lie because he cant distinguish the truth from what he actually says. Congenital liar.

Michael_ Gee · Aug 9, 2018

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No doubt, but I suspect that Mueller is in the driver's seat. He's known the whole time how this is going to play out, and I'd be surprised if he ends up getting out maneuvered. I think the timing of everything he has done so far has been meticulously planned to exert maximum political pressure on Trump to testify, and I wouldn't be surprised if he has more waves of indictments that will slowly tighten the lasso around POTUS until Trump's choice is either testify to clear his name or be presumed guilty in the court of public opinion.

I've said from the beginning that I think Trump's real fear/danger is something other than "collusion," at least as Dems and the the liberal commentariat envision it. That's why he repeats that word so much, because it's the one thing he knows he personally is not guilty of. He wants to frame this as a yes/no referendum: Did he actively/knowingly coordinate with the Russian government to help in defeat Clinton? I think he and his lawyers are reasonably confident that there is enough reasonable doubt there that he did not. Everything I've read suggests the extent of Trump's involvement in his own campaign was making speeches at rallies and doing media appearances. Most of the Manafort/Russia stuff is a consequence of his campaign staff being allowed to pursue their own interests with zero oversight. What Trump fears most, even more than having to answer questions about obstruction, is whatever else Mueller's team might have uncovered during the course of their investigation, namely, with regard to the foreign money flowing into his business enterprise. People read Trump's tweets as the sign of a man who knows he is guilty of collusion, but I've always read them as the sign of a man who knows that the things he really is guilty of never would have been uncovered without the collusion investigation. He sincerely believes that he is innocent and the legitimate victim of a which hunt because the crime everyone thinks he is going down for isn't the one that he actually committed. He knows that he is being encircled, and he is frustrated because he believes that Mueller never should have had the chance to encircle him.

I've always believed that the Mueller Report is less likely to be a detailed account of active collusion between Trump and the Russian government during the election than it is to be a devastating expose of the corruption of Trump and the Trump Organization and how that corruption has corrupted the Presidency, with his dealings with Russia during the campaign and since just a small instance of that corruption. That's why his M.O. has shifted toward delegitimizing Mueller and the eventual report. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Republicans fear that the report will shine an unwelcome spotlight on them as well. For Trump and the GOP, I suspect that the worst-case scenario isn't even criminal charges: it's a comprehensive, airtight, evidence-based account of how deeply this presidency and its agenda has been corrupted by interests that clearly do not have America and its people as their priority.

The coup de grace would be testimony/evidence of Trump shitting on his base in private moments. Trump, in the tee box with a Russian oligarch and two people who are now cooperating with the probe, remarking, "I've got these white trash idiots eating out of my hand so bad, you can't imagine the money we'd all make if I won this thing." That would be the Oval Office Cigar of the Mueller Report.
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I don't think Trump would say such things, even to himself. He really does like people who like him. In fact, he judges people solely by how much they like him.

Cosmo · Aug 9, 2018

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Was just saying to a co-worker yesterday that Kaine can basically take this campaign off.
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Saw a giant No Kaine banner on Midlo Turnpike on the way back from lunch. Probably won't be enough.

Baron Scicluna · Aug 9, 2018

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Yes, I have seen worshipful actions and words from the pro-death crowd. It's like a sacrament to them.
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So it's a religion to them? Why do you want to deny them their religious liberty?

Inky_Wretch · Aug 9, 2018

YankeeFan said: ↑

Congratulations to our newest citizens.

The American Dream is alive and well.

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Oh, so now chain migration is cool?

Hermes · Aug 9, 2018

Anchor, Baby.

Inky_Wretch · Aug 9, 2018

Azrael said: ↑

Building fire breaks. Setting back fires.

DanOregon said: ↑

power saws and pulaskis.
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TigerVols said: ↑

With dozers and shovels, mostly.
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Hotshots are some seriously badass mofos. Lots of Native American crews from around here are out in California right now working those fires.

Azrael · Aug 9, 2018

Inky_Wretch said: ↑

Hotshots are some seriously badass mofos. Lots of Native American crews from around here are out in California right now working those fires.
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A million years ago, one of my first stories was up in Missoula with the smokejumpers. Crazy tough.

heyabbott · Aug 9, 2018

Michael_ Gee said: ↑

I don't think Trump would say such things, even to himself. He really does like people who like him. In fact, he judges people solely by how much they like him.
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He doesn’t like anyone because he turns on people in less than a heartbeat.

Rainman · Aug 9, 2018

Does anyone actually think Ocasio Cortez is a sane human being? Can’t believe she’s in the running for anything but the nut house.

Her policies are crazy.

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