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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member

    tried that for eight years and all we got was a tan suit, coverage for preexisting conditions and the MAL theory
     
  2. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    Exactly. It's the same way with college football coaches. What's Nick Saban gonna do at $500K per year? Quit and go back home to teach high school gym or sell used cars in Bumfiddle, West Virginia?
     
  3. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    They're going to bitch loud and long and effectively. Doctors are popular. They are well organized politically. They also have money, which means legislators in Congress are 1000 times more likely to listen to them then some schlub without or with minimal health insurance. Congress, of course, has excellent insurance at a very low price.
     
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    It’s almost like America’s defense spending has subsidized their social spending.
     
  5. typefitter

    typefitter Well-Known Member

    Great. Let them bitch. I seem to recall air traffic controllers not being given much of a choice.
     
  6. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    1. The other thing is the notion that you need to peg military spending to GDP - it hasn't fluctuated much beyond 5 percent since the 60s. Healthcare spending by GDP has gone from 4 percent to 17 percent of GDP since 1960. College costs by GDP are also highest in the world at 2.6 percent - more than half of it spent on private schools.
     
  7. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    How much should authors, journalists, and writers make?
     
  8. typefitter

    typefitter Well-Known Member

    Thanks, America! Or, thanks Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, North Korea, Grenada, Panama, the USSR and the rest of the Eastern Bloc, El Salvador, Iran, Libya, and every other enemy, real or perceived, that have kept you scared and armed to the teeth. Keep building them fancy jets and missiles!

    Now if you'll excuse me, I have no student debt to pay and don't need to be tied to a job for the benefits.
     
  9. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    You could replace every pipe in Flint, Michigan for the cost of a single F-18.
     
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  10. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Me neither!
     
  11. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Oh, did I forget to mention existing health insurance companies? That's right, I did. Major corporations employing 10s of thousands of somebody's constituents. The access-for-all health systems, which vary wildly in setup, in other prosperous Western countries were mostly begun in the aftermath of World War II, when it was way easier to start from scratch because to a greater or lesser extent, whole countries were starting everything from scratch. The horrible and illogical American health care system is huge and in place. Even people who don't like it, which is most everybody, will feel threatened by a proposed major change. Obamacare wasn't that long ago, and that's what happened twice. At first, people felt threatened and it was unpopular. Then, when it had a couple years to become part of the scene, it became part of the status quo and repealing it became unpopular. My best guess is that if Medicare is expanded, the first step will be something like allowing 55 year old and overs to enter the program. And rest assured, a majority of current Medicare beneficiaries will oppose it.
     
  12. typefitter

    typefitter Well-Known Member

    I like you a bunch and get your point, I think. What's weird for me is the argument that something is too shitty to fix. That seems to be the American attitude toward a lot of things. I don't understand it.
     
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