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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Surprised Ocasio-Cortez hasn't been trolled by people saying the US already provides free health care, housing and education for people. It's called the Army.
     
  2. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Not Normal?

    You think?

    "What was so unusual in the context of Strzok’s firing, however, was the direct intervention of Deputy Director David Bowdich into the process. Just like in any other FBI disciplinary proceeding, Strzok was initially afforded the right to appeal the proposed termination of his employment to Candace M. Will, the head of the FBI Office of Professional Responsibility. I have appeared before Will several times on behalf of FBI clients and I can state from personal experience that she is well-credentialed and compassionate, but ultimately very strict. She is a firm believer in the notion that the FBI has to hold itself to the highest ethical and moral standards and that is often reflected in her determinations. In 11 years of practice, I cannot think of a single time I have ever managed to persuade Will to reverse a proposed termination of an FBI official’s employment.

    Nonetheless, according to a statement from Strzok’s attorney, Will chose not to uphold the proposed termination of Strzok’s employment. Instead, she concluded that it was appropriate to instead demote Strzok and suspend him for 60 days. She apparently also concluded that Strzok would be afforded what is known as a “last chance agreement,” which is effectively a written understanding between the agency and the employee that even the slightest instance of misconduct going forward can and will likely result in immediate termination. That Will reached this conclusion is very surprising and, in my professional opinion, speaks to just how thin the case for firing Strzok likely was.

    That Deputy Director Bowdich chose to overrule Will is what takes this matter so far outside the ordinary practice of the FBI disciplinary process. I have never seen senior FBI leadership unilaterally and directly intervene in such a manner, whether in my client’s favor or otherwise. If Strzok had not been satisfied with Will’s determination, appealing to Deputy Director Bowdich would not even have been a formal option. His final stage of administrative appeal would have been before the Disciplinary Review Board, which is comprised of three senior FBI officials but to my knowledge does not typically (if ever) include the deputy director."

    Trump’s Purge of the FBI Is Complete
     
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  3. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Look at the case for obstruction of justice against Trump. There's all the stuff that we already know about. Now throw in the concluding 'graph of the article linked above:

    "With the firing of Peter Strzok, the president’s purge of senior FBI leadership who helped launch that investigation is now complete. For those wondering whether Trump would allow the bureau to do its job without political interference from the White House, I think we have our answer."

    I think Mueller has a case made.
     
  4. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    A Weekly Standard Editor thinks that "suddenly" the WH looks like gangster government.

    Guess he woke up, or opened his eyes:

    "6) Serious legal people have tended to dismiss Trump's NDAs as being nonenforceable. That may be true, but the purpose of an NDA isn't to be enforced—it's to obstruct the revelation of information by making such revelations costly. Could requesting the execution of NDAs by public employees be a form of obstruction of justice?"

     
  5. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

  6. SnarkShark

    SnarkShark Well-Known Member

    I’m catching up on this thread, but holy shit.

    Narcissus even thinks this is a bit much.
     
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  7. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    You're too dense to realize you're defending him. That's funny. Your obsession with me really is getting the best of you.
     
  8. Just the facts ma am

    Just the facts ma am Well-Known Member

    I am not into "reality" shows other than Pawn Stars, so not ever viewing Omarosa, I always assumed her act was the loud stereotypical drama queen, e.g. Niecy Nash.

    So I was surprised to see this interview where she comes across as thoughtful, articulate and self-aware.



    A grifter she may be, but she is obviously a better speaker, more intelligent and more poised than Donald Trump.
     
  9. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Why do I have the feeling that, within a day or two, Burnett's going to say that he never called Trump?
     
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  10. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    I always need people to confirm to me that they don’t have recordings of my racism.
     
  11. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Dignity. Always dignity.

     
  12. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    Derrida coined the phrase “kettle logic” from a story that the psychologist Sigmund Freud related in two of his books.

    The story goes like. This. A man is accused by his neighbor of returning a kettle in a broken condition. In response to the accusation he argues:

    1. That he had returned the kettle undamaged

    2. That it was already damaged when he borrowed it.

    3. That he had never borrowed it in the first place


    In his response to tape allegations, Trump remains the master of kettle logic.
     
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