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Oscar nominations are out

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Cosmo, Jan 23, 2018.

  1. Donny in his element

    Donny in his element Well-Known Member

    This is why I — and the rest of America — love the ESPYs.
     
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  2. Bump ....
    Inception ending has been finally determined ...
    Was Leo's character in the real world or in a dream?


    Caine is IN the final scene.
     
  3. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Now if Caine can just clear up the ending to the original Monte Carlo Job.
    [​IMG]
     
  4. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Only two ways to see Inception ending:

    Either

    A. The ending is real.

    B. Mal was the one trying to get Cobb out and created all those worlds to get him out, and failed.

    B is much more interesting. But it's A.
     
  5. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Oh, I dunno. We'll see.

    People who argue Arrival and Dunkirk were better movies than Moonlight and The Shape of Water at least have an argument. Those who argue Mad Max is a better movie than Spotlight absolutely do. (Spotlight is a wonderful, important movie. Mad Max is a marvel, and feminist to boot.)

    Part of what's happened here is you're seeing voters rewarding movies for different kinds of subject matter - which I'm fine with and uphold - than they did 30 years ago. But I can appreciate the academy getting skittish. Last year was an absolute disaster. The Shape of Water is a deeply niche film that some people will flat out refuse to see.
     
  6. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Let's also not discount the critic bump - when critics overinflate a film's greatness in order to get people to see it. They know Marvel movies are going to crack $100m even if they trash it.
     
  7. justgladtobehere

    justgladtobehere Well-Known Member

    Undoubtedly my view is skewed by my lack on interest in almost any blockbuster and all comic book movies, but I get a feeling that it goes the other way also. Critics want to love blockbusters, to find the artistry in them.
     
  8. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Sure. I just know that most critics also consider themselves promoters of quality films. I still don't see how that translated to Shape of Water. An artsy remake of Splash.
     
  9. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    I think there should be some consideration for 'Moneyball'-type success stories.
    Case in point, Whiplash was made for about three million and grossed $50 million.
    That is not an easy trick to pull in Hollywood these days.
     
  10. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Get Out was made for 4.5 mil. It grossed $255 million globally. Jordan Peele can do whatever he wants now.
     
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  11. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    To me it is peak craftsmanship when you can deliver on time, under budget and well over earnings expectations.
    Goes for any piece of art.
    And anybody can market an action film.
    I don't think it's some big coincidence that most comic book movies glorify wealth.
     
  12. justgladtobehere

    justgladtobehere Well-Known Member

    When was it easy?
     
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