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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    What she wrote about both of them seems credible. That sounds very much like the kind of crap Roethlisberger would pull. I do wonder if the big idiot even realized how easy it is for a guy his size to come off as threatening. (That's not a defense. It's me questioning his intelligence in social situations.)
     
  2. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

    Corroboration rolling in.

     
  3. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    If Ford was making things up, why would she include Judge? He's still a good friend of Kavanaugh's, and if she were lying could be counted on to outspokenly defend him. Indeed, it was more than possible that he might lie for him.

    Judge hiding from the hearing speaks volumes - both about what he has written about the events of that time and his knowledge that his testimony is more likely to hurt Kavanaugh than help him.
     
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  4. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    From today's WaPo 202:


    -- In a measured column for today’s newspaper, David Von Drehle calls on Kavanaugh to withdraw so that Trump can nominate a woman as his replacement and the country can avoid the ugliness that seems inevitable in the coming days: “A decision to block Kavanaugh would surely add a new, arguably unhealthy, dimension to the ugly judicial wars already disfiguring the Senate. The first high-profile nominee brought down by disputed misconduct in high school would probably not be the last. … But a decision to confirm Kavanaugh under these circumstances portends further damage to the already battered credibility of the Supreme Court. … It’s unimaginable that Kavanaugh would have been the pick if Ford’s accusation had been known last spring. And this suggests a least-bad solution to the Senate’s dilemma. Kavanaugh can put the country ahead of his personal ambitions. While maintaining his innocence, he can withdraw for the sake of the court’s credibility. He can continue his distinguished service on the second-highest court in the land.”
     
  5. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    This allegation is passing the smell test for me. Can someone find my hot take from a week ago, discounting this allegation, and throw it in the trash?
     
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  6. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

  7. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    Here we go.

    Who needs an investigation? “If we have one, we might get more info....you know like corroboration”
     
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  8. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

  9. typefitter

    typefitter Well-Known Member

    That is fucking hardcore. What a measured, devastating letter.
     
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  10. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Integrity. That’s a key word in that letter for me. I define it as moral decency. Moral decency is not the end justifying the means. Nor is it a subjective belief about the ‘greater good’. It is doing the right thing for the right reason and the consequences be damned. Kavanaugh is lacking in that area. And painting with a broad brush, conservatives as they define themselves today lack moral decency. For them it appears that outlawing abortion, imposing their belief system which is unbridled greed disguised as capitalism, and pure lust for political power are their core beliefs. They probably, excpet for trump, think they are so right that getting what they want justifies the means they use to get them. Portraying the opposition, be they democrats, blacks, liberals, women as less than full, real and true Americans makes their justification easier. Hatch, Grassley, Graham lack integrity. Trump? If he could have gotten them Democrat nomination would be pro-choice and free trade. He’s just after glorification.
    If kavanugh has integrity and still finds that abortion is unconstitutional I will disagree with analysis, but respect his decision. His decisions lack integrity and therefore are not to be respected.

    I am of the writer’s generation and locale. If I didn’t know her and her friends personally, I knew hundreds just like them. Drunken privileged rich preppy jocks. Their lives laid out of top colleges, great expectations and ability and means to fulfill those expectations. And the belief that they are above the mundane. They were. We were, in hindsight. It did take work, it did take intellect. And it can be done with integrity. Many of them, Kavanaugh included, lack integrity. That’s disqualifying.
     
  11. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    I don't know what her motivation was six years ago but few people had ever heard of Kavanaugh then and what she said was in privacy -- to her husband, therapist and friends. Don't discount someone wanting their 15 minutes, even if it does bring them public grief. Some folks thrive on the negative attention. Like Trump.
     
  12. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    Telling someone something happened doesn't make it true.
     
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