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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    If I had voted for Carter, I'd probably regret it even though I know some of the bad perception of him was beyond his control. I wasn't old enough to vote for him. I voted for two Democrats who became president and despite the embarrassment Clinton caused, there just isn't good reason to regret either of those votes.

    In other words, as you were suggesting, BTE's point is bullshit.
     
    outofplace, Oct 10, 2018
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  2. lakefront

    lakefront Well-Known Member

    Ralph Nader (I was young!)
     
    lakefront, Oct 10, 2018
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  3. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    Hey remember, when USA Today printed an Obama op-ed that contained a ton of lies about the GOP?
     
    garrow, Oct 10, 2018
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  4. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    USA Today's statement is laughable on its face:

    “We see ourselves as America’s conversation center, presenting our readers with voices from the right, left and middle,” he said. “President Trump’s op-ed was treated like other column submissions; we check factual assertions while allowing authors wide leeway to express their opinions. Readers are invited to submit opposing viewpoints and provide additional context, some of which will be published in the days ahead.”
     
    Azrael, Oct 10, 2018
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  5. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    I have voted for terrible governors in the past.
    Obama was a poor president in my mind.
    But he wasn't a malicious clown, not even a little.
     
    3_Octave_Fart, Oct 10, 2018
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  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    If you are going to own equity or debt right now, you did EXACTLY what I would be doing. Stay on the short end of the curve. You are actually earning a real rate of return in US debt (not in European or Japanese yet) on the short end now for the first time in a decade. As risk assets that got into bubble territory sell off (if that happens as I know it is going to happen eventually -- like a 50, 60 percent drop), I think you will be relatively safe there. I wouldn't reach for yield on the long end, and I'd stay away from corporate debt. We have been in a bond market bull market for 37 years. These cycles tend to last decades -- 25, 30, 40 years. If things turned in 2016, as I believe they did when the 10 year bottomed out at somewhere around 1 3/8 percent, people who have no idea what a bond bear market looks like are going to learn that there is risk there, too.
     
    The Big Ragu, Oct 10, 2018
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  7. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    I'm no bond expert, but this excites me. I don't need this money for a year. Whatever the bond market does, I am holding these to maturity, and getting 2.75 percent. Seems like a no brainer to me.
     
    poindexter, Oct 10, 2018
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  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    It's fine if you hold to maturity. It will be even better, if I as I suspect, the Fed panics and they stop with the raises of the overnight rate. If not, your bonds will trade below par. But if you are holding until maturity, you are fine. It's as low risk as you are going to find now, and in real terms, as I said, at least when you bought, you were actually earning a REAL rate of return. There are institutional investors in Europe who not only can't say that, they are PAYING governments to take their money. People will look back when this unravels and say, "WTF"? Just like in every credit crisis. ... everyone suddenly sees everything clearly. This one is going to be much worse -- way more debt globally, misallocated to a greater degree because they took it to an extreme with the "free money" for borrowers.
     
    The Big Ragu, Oct 10, 2018
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  9. cyclingwriter2

    cyclingwriter2 Well-Known Member

    As big as Taylor Swift is, she doesn’t hold a candle to the reach and control over her fans as Beyoncé does. A large part of her base worships her as a near deity.
     
    cyclingwriter2, Oct 10, 2018
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  10. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, she looks terrible...
     
    poindexter, Oct 10, 2018
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  11. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    She looks like a mannequin.
    No thanks.
     
    3_Octave_Fart, Oct 10, 2018
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  12. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    I can see the DVD now: "Insecure Council. Starring Nina Hartley, Stormy Daniels and Donald Trump."
     
    HanSenSE, Oct 10, 2018
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