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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    That's pretty darn close.

    Although what he's doing is exposing the dirty little not-so-secret truth that we AREN'T a democracy, that we're more of a borderline kleptocracy (not as bad as Yeltsin's Russia, but . . . ), corrupted by the absolute power we've wielded for some 70 years.

    He pulled back the curtain. What was behind there has been there for a long time.
     
    BTExpress, Dec 14, 2018
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  2. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member


    Trump science adviser casts doubt on links between pollution and health problems
     
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  3. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    For everything the United States is or isn't, and all the ways it doesn't live up to its ideals, Putin is not exposing truth. Russia (and prior to Russia, the Soviet Union) works with disinformation to try to create dissension here. It plays upon the diversity we have here to try to play groups against each other and create hatred (racial, economic, religious -- really anything it can seize on). It is interested in hobbling the U.S. Not pulling the cover off and exposing truth. Some of what it does has worked here because the U.S. has an environment of free speech and open expression, whereas, in Russia, Putin can not only stifle any opposition to him (for example, by simply not allowing a candidate that threatens him to even run), he controls information with state-run media and he has used intimidation (including murder) to take out anyone trying to disseminate truths exposing his despotism.

    Any, "The U.S. is no better" thing, is crap. The U.S. may not be the pure bastion of freedom and democracy a lot of people want to proclaim. We get a lot of things wrong. But you can drive a truck through how close to our ideal the U.S. comes. ... and where Russia is as a country under Vladimir Putin.
     
    The Big Ragu, Dec 14, 2018
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  4. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Johnson and Johnson is going to be wishing that their stock was doing as well as GE's. How criminal is this, if proven to be true? God almighty, there are any number of members of their board who are going to get drawn and quartered over this. Between the lawsuits over asbestos and the stockholder lawsuits there won't be anything left.

    J&J shares sink 9% after Reuters report on asbestos in Johnson & Johnson baby powder
     
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  5. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

    Word
     
    CD Boogie, Dec 14, 2018
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  6. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Oh man.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2018/07/13/johnson-johnson-ordered-to-pay-4-7-billion-to-women-who-say-baby-powder-gave-them-cancer
     
    Azrael, Dec 14, 2018
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  7. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    Trump's done, we'll be back to "normal" politics soon enough.
     
    goalmouth, Dec 14, 2018
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  8. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    When the article you linked to states:”
    Today, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the Department of the Army (Army) are delivering on the President’s agenda by proposing a new definition for “waters of the United States.”, the journalistic endeavor is nothing more than State propaganda

    There may be good reasons to revisit the2015 definition, but I have no faith the EPA and trump care to read the law, or have the intellectual capacity to understand it
     
    heyabbott, Dec 14, 2018
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  9. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

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  10. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    Whenever that happens, it won't be soon enough for me.
     
    Neutral Corner, Dec 14, 2018
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  11. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

     
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  12. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    You'd think people would jump at a job where the boss doesn't show up until after lunch.
     
    Michael_ Gee, Dec 14, 2018
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