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"Fringes"?

I'm not sure the center is where you think the center is.

 

One of these days this country is gonna wake up and realize this place has been listing to the right for 40 years to no avail. Twenty-two years of republican presidents and, in most of the years that they’ve had democrats in office they’re almost immediately subdued by republican congresses. It's happened with such frequency that the "center" is more moderate right than anything.

 

How about the woman on the right actually serve in Congress for a year or two? It's a job, she'll either be good at it or not.

 

I'm not sure you see the shift coming. It's going to be hard left. 10-15 years. Hard left.

 

Some of them voted for Obama!

 

Of course I see a shift coming. Politics are a pendulum.

The country swung hard right beginning with Reagan and has long since gone off a right-wing, reactionary cliff.

That's how we got Trump.

 

Well, I'm not sure I'd call it a cliff, but it's comin on back over whatever cliff it went over. Big time.

 

Because it’s an unfair test. 1st term Representitives are unlikely to make an impact on legislation. She can be a media personality but the rules of the House will restrict her ability todo anything more than vote. Unless, Pelosi, Hoyer and the Dem Leadership give her special treatment. And there are lots of 1st term representitives in more important swing districts to provide those benefits.

Now, if she can fund raise for House Democrats, she can be a player

 

Yes, in 10 or 15 years the whole country will be as radical as Fightin' Bob La Follette or Nelson Rockefeller.

 

It's not an unfair test. Let's see her sshow up, vote, do good work, listen to her distract and actually be in Congress before overhauling the system that she may only know a fraction about.

 

Lol. If you know it's coming - and you do - than at least some of this "we're merely returning to where we were in 1948" is theater.

We'll see how far left it's going. I have a hunch it's going aways to the left. First thing that suffers, almost always, is art. Hell, it already has, at least in music, where the movement of the moment is "fade out" atmospheric noise music that's cynical and detached and particularly unalive.

 

This is most accurate. But the ability to get media attention, which she has, and fund-raising ability in the Internet donation era can go hand-in-hand. O-C knocked off a party leader, which naturally other party leaders don't like. But it also means they are curious about her, have grudging respect, and if nothing else will spend a little energy trying to get her on their side. So she'll have a limited amount of clout the typical fresh person doesn't have. Same with McBain. She's a black woman who won in Georgia with gun control as a big issue. That's a neat trick, and the veteran pols will want to pay attention to her to learn how she pulled it off.