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College Basketball Thread 2018

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by LanceyHoward, Oct 12, 2018.

  1. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure we gotta go back to 1906. That seems a little primordial. But I think that model of the NCAA is probably better for what the NCAA is trying to achieve than some model where the athletes get NIL compensation and/or a salary.

    The Olympics aren't nearly as good as they used to be, I know that. And the number of opportunities to be in the Olympics has dwindled, too. So Michael Phelps could make yet another comeback and have his kid wearing MP gear in Rio, some American stayed home. So great American dunce Ryan Lochte could swim in yet another Olympics and play the role of ugly American stereotype, someone else didn't get a shot. So on and so on. By professionalizing the Olympics we actually reduced opportunities for Americans to qualify for it.
     
  2. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    Because the NBA stopped allowing them to come out t play their first year out of high school. This decision was not made with any concern for the interests of the players. And because it is in the best interests of hundreds of schools to collude.
     
  3. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    I don't care; if the professionals are the best athletes, they should go. If LeBron wants to play in his fifth Olympics, i don't care if some 2nd-3rd year guy doesn't get to go.
     
  4. Jake_Taylor

    Jake_Taylor Well-Known Member

    If the NCAA wants to say free education is fair compensation, fine. It's not nothing.

    The draconian part of it is making rules against kids making their own money other ways. Let Zion market himself. Let Justin Wright-Foreman make a few grand hosting a shooting clinic. Let the Ohio State linebackers sell a beef cake calendar if they want.

    That would put so much of this to rest.
     
  5. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Again setting aside the NCAA.

    Let's call the scholarship in big time college basketball the "minimum wage."

    Is it time to raise the minimum wage in big time college basketball?
     
  6. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    It does affect me. I don't like it when people are exploited for their labor solely for the benefit of others. I think it's bad for this country and it's definitely bad for the young men in question, many of whom are black and do not come from means.

    So, why doesn't it affect you?
     
  7. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    For it to be of any use, players would have to stay for three or four years, exponentially increasing the chance of major injury.

    Fuck it, make it like baseball. You can go pro out of high school, but if you choose to take a school's "compensation" of a free education, then you have to stay for a minimum of three years. Or go JUCO and try the draft process again after a year. Give the player the choice. As of now, the player's only choice is college or leaving the country for a year.
     
  8. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    Considering how many on this board worked for horrible newspaper chains with skinflint management it blows my mind how many side with the schools when it comes to NCAA vs. student athlete.
     
  9. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    The schools' desire to collude - I'm not saying they do, but you are - has no bearing on another league sprouting up.

    The NBA didn't want to scout HS games anymore. I actually don't blame the NBA, and it'd be better - for the NBA product - if players had to wait even longer to get in it.

    But the NBA not allowing players in is on the NBA. Not the NCAA. The basketball commission has even called on the NBA to resolve this, and I think it will.
     
  10. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    Reagan helped skew opinion of labor, possibly forever. I hope if there is a Hell, he is in it.
     
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  11. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    So I assume you have a major problem with the NBA's salary cap, which puts a limit on what LeBron James is worth. Because, obviously, LeBron James is worth, I dunno, 200 million per year to the league? More?
     
  12. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    This is a pretty indefensible argument.
     
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