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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Tarheel316

    Tarheel316 Well-Known Member

    He is so fucking delusional.
     
  2. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

  3. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    No, the key is to make public schools better. The key is to spend public funds on public education rather than giving up on the majority of students in struggling schools, which is what happens when you take money from public education and spend it on private schools.

    DeVos doesn't care about that. If public schools allowed prayer, her interest in funneling public money to private education would wane dramatically. It's about pushing her beliefs on others and screwing over the people who need help the most.

    Teacher unions are on the side that wants to give every student a fair shot. You are not.
     
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  4. Driftwood

    Driftwood Well-Known Member

    Republicans do not want an educated electorate. They want an indoctrinated electorate.
     
  5. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    For MLB, it's not a "liberal" issue or "fairness" issue, or however you personally want to shoehorn it. It's a business issue. When someone who has a high-profile position within your organization does something that is getting you a lot of negative attention, and it has the potential to do you harm financially or reputationally or both, I personally see it as perfectly legit to try to protect your business the way they did. That isn't "overreach" by MLB. It doesn't matter why a lot of people were put off by what they saw on that video. It just matters that they were. MLB was just acting in its interest in my opinion, and that is rational, not inappropriate.

    Aside from that, personally, I wouldn't make Larry Bauer the poster child for having been done wrong. That video looked bad even in the best case -- where it was just an intense argument. The two of them were in public, and she was screaming her head off while he was aggressively grabbing at her and her phone. The reason someone recorded it in the first place was how bad it looked. If I am the Giants, I wouldn't want a guy caught on video looking that bad in public, in charge of the show. At best, it demonstrates really bad judgment on his part and a bad disposition.

    But assuming it was just a bad moment caught on video for him, I think he really should just sit out the suspension and hope people forget so he can move on. I certainly don't see him as a victim who has been wronged. He had a vey bad moment, which he either regrets or he should regret. There was a price to pay for it.
     
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  6. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  7. Slacker

    Slacker Well-Known Member

  8. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Check the date of that tweet. NC was pointing out Trump has once again flip flopped.
     
  9. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    What’s really crazy about the Republicans and health care is that the ACA has become popular and this could be a huge self-inflicted wound on them if it’s overturned in the courts.

    I saw an estimate on NBC Nightly News that 26 million could lose health insurance if the ACA is overturned and there was no replacement. Even if mostvof them were to be already Democrats, that’s still would be a few million independents, non-voters and even Republicans who may get upset enough that they won’t care about Jesus or Russia or fetal clumps of cells because their party got rid of their insurance.

    I’m just picturing Trump and his ilk cheering a victory only to have a lot of pissed off voters staring at them.
     
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  10. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    I never know what to make of these numbers.

    Before ACA (the mandate), a bunch of people chose not to have insurance (for whatever reason, most likely cost). After the mandate, they were added to insurance rolls, and Dems bragged about 20+ million more "being covered."

    So my question is, if ACA is overturned, exactly HOW will these 26 million people "lose" health insurance? Will their current insurers just kick them off? That's my definition of "losing" insurance. Will they choose for themselves not to keep what they have? That's NOT my definition of "losing" anything. Will everything just reset and people will shop for health insurance the same way they do auto and home?

    I just find it hard to believe that 26 million people who WANT health insurance all of a sudden simply will not be able to get it.
     
  11. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

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  12. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    The vast majority of those who will lose coverage will either be unable to afford it without the ACA subsidies and Medicaid expansion or will be uninsurable due to pre-existing conditions.
     
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