President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Mueller could not save the day.

So now all the eggs have been transferred to the "metal decline" basket.

 

It's so obvious Trump is sundowning. This isn't an insuperable bar to re-election, it's just a fact. Since his decision-making was erratic even in his salad days (remember the USFL?), it probably doesn't effect his Presidency that much, all things considered. As for Mueller, was the report good reading, BTE?

 

Mr. Trump your opening statement please.

"I am the greatest Prussian this country has ever seen, believe me. Oh lots of people cry that I have committed lots of crimes--and what if I did, it's not like I ever did anything as bad as Hillary has done-cause it's all BULLSHIT anyway, it really is. I've got a great brain, great school, very successful and it is kinda crazy I have only had this job for a couple of years. Doesn't it feel like a lot longer, folks? The other day I was golfing with the leader of Italy--Benito Mussolini---and I'm like that is your real name--and he said, he said this with tears in his eyes "thank you for saving the country." He gets a bad rap from angry Democrats but he really is an ok guy. Very strong, very misunderstood. Not like AOC, I mean c'mon folks, she was a BARTENDER! I employ lots of bartenders at my clubs. Most of them are from Manchuria. And that's the thing these liberals don't get."

 

I get your point. Maybe you have to be a minority to understand. Maybe you have to be a minority where there is a deifinitive history of hateful public language often with accompanying threats of violence. Like Kill the Jews, Ban the Jews, Stop the Jews. And this disseminated message has been followed by actual violence.

Guarantee if you spread some fliers on cars parked on Sunday infrom of a Catholic Church said DEATH TO CHRIST LOVERS. Fuck Jesus like he fucks little boys. Kill the rapists. And a month later you found a couple Catholic fathers, who had nothing to do with the CHurch’s history of sexual violence, hanging from a few trees. And then that spread to nonCatholic Christians. Those fliers would be a hate crime. Because if you’re not Christian the difference between Protestant and Catholic is like the difference between Sunni and Shiite Muslims.

No one posts fliers that says lets kill Jets Fans because there’s no history of killing Jets fans. No one is posting fliersthat people who eat crunchy peanut butter deserve to be burned alive.

But the right wing, now known as MAGA, aka the Klan, has a history of lynchings and shootings and church burnings and rape over race and religion and excusing it in the judicial system.

The difference is that violent language that has a history of imminent violence is not speech. It’s is assault. What the MAGA cowards formerly the Klan cowards did was wait until the speech threats were separated in time long enough for the judicial system to declare them declarations of future intent without imminence and therefore legal. That’s wrong. But what should have happened is that the Jewish response to leaflets or the black response or the Hispanic response should be one of violence. Then you fuckers would get what you deserve. Put out some klan leaflets in Pittsburgh, wait a few months and then let someone shoot up a temple full of old people and children. The response should be that innocent christians or whites should have been massacred after the first leaflets arrived.

Do unto others first, that which they would do unto you.

 

The Democrats would really have to blow it. Which, they might. They sort of did last time, with the considerable help of James Comey’s Dudley-Do-Right performance.

 

Alma's post gets to the one major difference between 2020 and 2016. Back then, nobody, including Donald Trump himself, thought he could win and acted according to that belief. Now everybody knows he could, because he did. And that knowledge will influence everyone's behavior. How that will impact the vote I do not know, but it will be maybe the most significant element of the 2020 campaign. It is about the only thing allowing Joe Biden to be seriously considered, let alone leading the polls, in the Democratic Party, for instance.

 

Neither of those presidents were elected by a clear minority of the voters, or because voters from their own party didn't show. They had far more wriggle room than Fucko.

 

The key will be Democratic voter turnout in a few key states. Trump isn't picking up any new voters in states that he won't win anyway. The electoral map isn't his friend... at least I don't think it is... as long as people show up to vote.

If Castro earns the Democratic nomination, could he get Texas and Florida?

 

Most importantly, both Obama and Clinton reacted to getting thumped by publicly telling voters, "I hear you, you're pissed" and to some extent, Clinton more than Obama, changing their policies. Both certainly changed their rhetoric. Trump's reaction was to deny the midterms ever happened. He won't tell his closest advisers "I hear you" let alone peon voters. Again, doesn't mean he can't win, just makes the path harder for him.

 

I'm 58. I've seen exactly two incumbents fail to get re-elected in my lifetime, both during trying economic times.

 

The website 2020 Presidential Election Interactive Map has the Democratic candidate with 232 electoral votes and Trump with 219. There are 87 toss up votes including Arizona, Florida, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.

There info comes from compiled predictions. Whether or not it's accurate. I don't know. It's interesting to look at.