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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    The morning shipment of Egg McMuffins should be about gone by now.
    The Big Mac trucks will start rolling up to the White House loading docks soon.
     
    Starman, Apr 10, 2019
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  2. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    If I were Obama, I would challenge Humpty Dumpty to a footrace in the Rose Garden.
    Professionally officiated with funds raised for charity.
    Let's see that booty in some real action- he owes us a few laughs.
     
    3_Octave_Fart, Apr 10, 2019
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  3. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    The norms in the USA are broken. Absolutely broken. I hope we can recover.

     
    Inky_Wretch, Apr 10, 2019
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  4. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    garrow, Apr 10, 2019
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  5. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Too late. We are now in an era where only raw power matters. It won't ever be reversed, even if Trump loses in 2020. The Democratic President will try and restore the old "norms," such as abiding by the law, and fail dismally. Like Joe Biden is gonna turn this around? He doesn't even see that's it happened.
     
    Michael_ Gee, Apr 10, 2019
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  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Raw power has prevailed in the past, and the country moved on. Hell, in 1850, one Senator pulled a gun on another Senator. ... in the Senate chamber. It's long forgotten. We can move past the last couple of years, just as the country has moved past lots of embarrasments in its past. Our country doesn't live up to its ideals for short periods of time, but we have a long history of always swinging back to the basics of life, liberty, property, rule of law. I suspect we will, too, and history books will look back on Trump as an anomoly.
     
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    The Big Ragu, Apr 10, 2019
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  7. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    There was a somewhat larger instance of the use of raw power in the 1860s. The question of slavery broke the system down. The question of white people possibly becoming a minority of American citizens has the same capability to destroy the system.
     
    Michael_ Gee, Apr 10, 2019
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  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Anything has the capacity to "destroy the system." Even in relatively recent history. ... Hysteria over communism and the red scare had that capacity. The civil rights movement had that capacity. Opposition to the Vietnam War had that capacity.

    Social unrest isn't a new thing. Representative democracies are difficult and fragile things. We have sured ours up with some fine institutions, but it takes work. Maybe something will destroy our system of government in the future, but we tend to look at the immediacy of current events and not realize that the country has gone through things as, or more, turbulent and came out of those things with history marking them as blips.
     
    The Big Ragu, Apr 10, 2019
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  9. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    I know we all know this, but just imagine for a second the complete and utter shitshow that would have resulted if Obama had ever tried to investigate law enforcement for investigating him.
     
    RickStain, Apr 10, 2019
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  10. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    I always love the "America will be fine because look at American history, it's always been fine" takes. As if 250-year societies are somehow historically invulnerable.
     
    RickStain, Apr 10, 2019
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  11. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    garrow, Apr 10, 2019
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  12. typefitter

    typefitter Well-Known Member

    Rome had a very good 357-year-long run, and even today remains a valued source of mid-table Italian football, artichokes, and ruins.
     
    typefitter, Apr 10, 2019
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