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When a candidate is chosen to face off against Trump, will AOC still be "the face of the party"?

 

The media made Palin the face of the GOP and she never ran for president....

 

I've had at least three GOP dummies that I know tell me AOC is running for president...

 

Sure, in 2028.

 

OK, when AOC is named VP candidate for the Dems she can be THE FACE OF THE PARTY. Deal?

 

Hey now, why would a US Representative know whether there are any active coal mines in his district??

 

You guys do realize that you aren't getting anywhere on AOC because you are actually arguing about the application of a nebulous term that has zero real world relevance and exists only as a definition that you each individually are assigning it. . .right?

Psychologically, epistemologically, Alma needs AOC to be the "face of the party" because it's the only way to legitimize the equivalence he draws between Democrats and the batshit crazy party that happens to represent his policy leanings. Because Trump is the "face" of the GOP, and because he (Alma) can't bring himself to concede that the country might actually be better off with a Democrat in charge, he needs to believe that the face of the Dems is somebody who is equally as extreme as POTUS, and that his (Alma's) pooh-poohing of things like Trump as a national embarrassment is justified on the grounds that the other option is an equally demagogic intellectual lightweight who would, in short order, have us all subsisting on vegan government cheese and wearing standard issue genderless burlap sacks while 75 percent of our gross pay is siphoned off to fund committee-approved social science research at the newly established and compulsorily attended Federal Institute for Intersectional Studies.

He wants AOC on that wall. He needs AOC on that wall.

There's some merit to some of what he is arguing. AOC embodies the Id of the true left, just as Trump is the Id of the true right in human form. Nonetheless, from a practical standpoint, the argument is meaningless, because the face of the Democratic Party will end up being whoever ends up getting the nomination for 2020, and AOC will inevitably be forced into the reduced and more appropriate role of mascot of the delusionally-far left.

Ironically, the worst case scenario for the future Alma fears is for Trump to win reelection over a centrist Democratic candidate who attempts to appeal to independents and the more sane of the Obama voters who either switched to Trump or stayed home. At that point, it will be hard for anybody to deny that every election henceforth will be a rallying of the bases. And given that the Democratic base will only continue to get younger and more disillusioned, the Dems will have an AOC-type candidate at the podium in 2024.

 

Honest question: What will anyone really learn tomorrow about the Mueller Report? Barr is the one holding a news conference about it, we already know it's going to be redacted, and it does seem the initial summary by Barr was presented as beneficial toward Trump as possible. Why would tomorrow be any different?

 

Of course in the vast majority of functioning democracies around the world, AOC would be only moderately liberal.

It's in the Mega-Overton Windowed US, in which the goalposts have been moved 3000 miles to the right, where the right wing screech machine can run around shrieking like hyenas that she's some wild and crazy radical bolshevik.

And full fledged fascist nationalism has become a mainstream position.

 

It’ll be a nothingburger. Barr is a political hack and he’s going to support Trump all the way.

 

The question is whether the redactions will be so clumsily and obliviously done to expose the crimes they are intended to conceal.

And, whether somebody In Mueller's camp will be so incensed by the whitewashing they defecate the whole shitload out on the internet. Spew it all out in one shot. Rough and raw. Zero
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And then, it'll be a real hoot listening to the Trumpublicans howl about "national security violations," when everyone knows Fuckboy dials up Uncle Vlad bright and early every morning, as ordered, to deliver his master a complete briefing all the way down to the color of the panties Ivanky is or isn't wearing that day.

With Fuckboy in the White House, there is no such thing as "national security" anymore.