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I wonder what is in the counter-intelligence section of the Mueller Report, which was not released. We may hear some of it once Congress gets to see it.

Bottom line is that unless things change radically, the Report is a done deal and Trump survived it. He did so by attacking his own DOJ, the FBI, the U.S. Intelligence services. He lied countless times. He encouraged his people to lie. He trolled pardons to those under investigations. He refused to testify, answering only a few written questions, and refused to answer written follow up questions. He is unquestionably not innocent, but will likely never be found guilty of the matters in the report.

There are at least fourteen other investigations still active, and I think that several of those are going to stick. SDNY is likely to be able to prove financial crimes. The time line on all of that is questionable though, and the 2020 election grows closer. It won't be long before bringing a case against Trump during the election becomes a political problem. He retains a viable shot at reelection, as things stand.

The Dem leadership does not want to impeach, knowing that they don't have the sort of case that has any chance in the Senate. That's probably a correct calculation, but it leaves rank and file Dems frustrated and angry, which is not where you want them going to an election.

 

I have seen predictions that Trump will win in '20. But wasn't he able to win at least partly because of poor turnout from the left? I may be wrong but I don't believe that he has added any to his base during his first 3 years and I have a hard time believing the left will not be energized come '20. I guess that voter suppression is a concern but how does he win without adding to his base?

 

It was specifically lower turnout from African-American voters in Philly, Detroit and Milwaukee that hurt Clinton. Otherwise, Democratic turnout was pretty normal. Some say this was due to voter suppression, but only in Wisconsin does that seem a factor. Most was due to natural lowered enthusiasm without Obama on the ballot.

 

It was a combination of low voter turnout among Democrats who thought this was in the bag plus Butthurt Bernie supporters plus people who stayed home because they hated both candidates. If I recall correctly, Trump got fewer votes than Romney in 2012.

 

Lower percentage, not fewer votes.

 

I don't understand the Democratic calculus here. Wouldn't you want America to see the Republicans try to defend Trump? Don't you want to force GOP Senators to vote against impeachment?

EDIT: The only way I understand it is, if the Democrats want to face Trump in 2020. Which I get, sort of, except that last time he won.

 

Wonder if Trump's DOJ will do anything to these True American Patriots. I'm guessing not. Despicable.
New Mexico militia group detains migrants at the border - CNN

 

I *have* to think that there are a lot of Americans who will vote against Trump and end our long national nightmare. His floor of support is stable.

If I'm wrong it's going to hurt a lot.

 

IMO this is just the usual Democratic leadership timidity, born of a generation that had its brains beaten out in numerous elections from 1972-2016. They vaguely remember than impeaching Clinton was very unpopular, forgetting that 1. Clinton had a job approval rating near 60 even as most people thought he was a slimy horndog, and 2. Bush won the next election despite this.

 

Of course!

 

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