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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Yes. So should people who aren't registered to vote. (And thus, you know, can't just walk into any old precinct and vote.)

    The "take the worst serial killer you can imagine and give him a vote" perspective is a perfectly valid one. Dylann Roof gets to vote for governor. Why?
     
  2. Oggiedoggie

    Oggiedoggie Well-Known Member


    I’m waiting for someone to suggest that, while the number of prisoners should be fully counted, they do not have full rights usually afforded citizens, so only 60 percent of that number should be used to calculate congressional districts.
     
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  3. swingline

    swingline Well-Known Member

    We tried that one. Didn’t work out so well.
     
  4. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member

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  5. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member

    So because people like Dylann Roof exist, the poor schmuck who's incarcerated for a non-violent drug offense shouldn't vote?


    And the abortion one, are you assuming that a significant number of women are having abortions for frivolous reasons? Even late-term abortions?
     
  6. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    You can talk away any of her (or anyone's) nonsense that way. Well. ... it COULD be that way.

    Should a bank that makes a loan to a company that builds an oil pipeline that has an accident and a spill, be liable for something they had nothing to do with? Not in any conventional sense of liability. But sure, it COULD be that way. Forget any doctrines of fairness, or the fact that you are selectively trying to demonize things related to your social beliefs, but not focused on those who are in tune with your social orientation.

    Could we make distinctions between different felonies when it comes to their right to vote? We never have, for the reason that all felons are largely treated as. ... felons. But it COULD be that way.

    Can we take a million unrelated social ideas such as a money for those who are unable to work, housing, free health care, free higher education, a "living wage," and shoehorn them into a "green new deal" that earmarks a massive federal subsidy to renewable energies? They all have nothing to do with each other, let alone a "green" agenda. ... but we COULD do that. The beauty of it, too, is that if I suggest they are unrelated, or I oppose any of them individually on economic grounds, you can just dismiss me as someone who wants to destroy the planet.
     
  7. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    On the flip side, we can examine the issue of 99 percent of abortions being done before the fetus is viable or and doesn’t feel pain or the 1 percent that involves BABEEZ being torn limb from limb mere seconds before they go through the birth canal because women are evil Jezebels who endured nine months of pregnancy only to evilly change their mind at the last second even though a late-term abortion costs thousands of dollars, takes multiple days to complete and no woman has an abortion that late unless there are some serious medical problems. Guess which argument the anti-abortion side takes?
     
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  8. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    People on the right do it, too.

    I'd say it's more prominent on the left in part because, well, it's easier to pull off legitimately while Trump is in the White House. Democrats can legitimately say they're, you know, better. It's hard not to be.

    But that cultural moment also appears to have inspired the idea that not only are Democrats the absence of Trump's awful, but simultaneously in possession of all the enlightened ideas, and, further, uniquely mindful of how to frame those issues.

    "To avoid looking completely + utterly out of touch with our prison system."
     
  9. FileNotFound

    FileNotFound Well-Known Member

    Does her larger point become valid with this clause deleted?
     
  10. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member

     
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  11. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    The majority of anti-abortion folks that I've ever known, including me, are, well, pretty much against both of those kinds of abortions. The pickets outside Planned Parenthood aren't for the latter procedure, I know that.
     
  12. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Right, they’d rather the woman die or have her health damaged or have a fetus be born with severe and painful health issues that will kill them shortly after birth than the woman have an abortion. Because it’s God’s Will.
     
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