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I don't think some of that stuff is virtue signaling. Some of them are values, some are virtues. I don't think 2A, for example, is an expression of moral superiority in and of itself. MAGA sort of is, I guess, but it's more of a slogan.

Virtue-signalling, to me, is more along the lines of "felons voting probably isn't in the top ten issues anyone cares about, but I do, and there's a right way to think about it, that's part of being a good moral person, so vote for me, even if felons never vote in my lifetime, because I'm on the right side of history." It's substituting character and virtue for actual workable policy.

For example, I don't think Bernie Sanders' policy prescriptions on Wall Street reform is virtue signalling.

 

To me it's someone expressing, indirectly or not, that they lubs their country more than you do.
That somehow America is more their birthright than yours.
Something these people don't understand, will never understand - it's not just their country.
That's a big part of what all this shit is about.

 

If lubbing one's country were a reason to vote for someone, or even like someone, then, yes, it's virtue signalling.

I'll tell ya: Hating one's country has turned into a virtue of its own. In fact, on the left, it might be the cooler thing to do, is hate it.

 

Can't disagree with that.

Makes me wonder more and more, though, what the Democratic Party has to offer this 58-year-old white fart.

 

If you gave felons the right to vote, what percentage
a) would vote
b) vote for a Democrat?

Answers
a) not many
b) maybe two or three total

 

a) Almost all of them, 95%.
b) Almost all of them, 95%

You're gonna vote for the folks who gave you the right to do it. And why wouldn't you vote? You got somewhere else to be on that day? Registering would be a snap, too - every inmate is right there to be registered.

 

oh, I was thinking more along the lines of former felons who are out on the streets, not the guys locked up for life.

but why the hell would a guy up for life want to vote? He has no vested interest in anything that happens in society. I mean, they're in jail for a reason: they don't do well with cost-benefit analysis or socially acceptable behavior.

If you're gonna let them vote, hell, let them gamble, too.

 

I don't have kids but if a parent chooses to discipline or critique them because THEY WANT THEM TO BE BETTER PEOPLE, does that mean they hate them?

 

Well, it might have Joe Biden.

Question is - and it's the question being asked on the Left - whether you need Joe Biden to beat Trump. There's a reason he took dead aim at Trump in his video - beating Trump would be his calling card in primaries.

But the movement against Biden's gonna be fierce. So fierce.

From The Cut:

But the irony is that so much of what is terrifying and dangerous about this time — the Trump administration, the ever more aggressive erosion of voting and reproductive rights, the crisis in criminal justice and yawning economic chasm between the rich and everyone else — are in fact problems that can in part be laid at the feet of Joe Biden himself, and the guys we’ve regularly been assured are Democrats’ only answer.

Joe Biden. Terrifying. Dangerous. More:

Very often, we are told — by people on television and in political media, perhaps by the people in our social circle and our families — that Joe Biden is the only way that Democrats can win in 2020. It’s a version of what we have been told over and over and over again for 50 years. But when I look at these last decades, I don’t actually see how much we’ve won with a party run by Those Guys. I see how much we’ve lost.

 

Not having Trump as a candidate comes to mind.

 

Trump hasn't done anything that negatively affects me or anyone in my house . . . yet.

That's already one leg up he has on Biden.