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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    All of this.

    It's perfectly fine to be frustrated with Mueller's equivocation. I certainly was appalled by Comey's horsecrap.
     
  2. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  3. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member

    Why would the Democratic party collude with Russia so it could lose the election?

    I know it doesn't have to make sense but still.
     
  4. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Mueller didn't equivocate. He did the job he was tasked with.

    There are two ways to hold Donald Trump to account.

    1) If there is evidence that he broke the law, prosecute him.
    2) Congress can impeach him for abuse of power, being unfit, lying, cheating, obstruction, etc.

    Number 1 isn't happening, because the justice department is politicized and controlled by Trump now. Everyone saw how shamefully Barr acted.

    Number 2 could happen, and it would bethe right way to go about this, because an impeachment is carried out by the democratically elected representatives of the people.

    Mueller gave Congress a roadmap and the evidence of obstruction, well detailed, for Congress to use IF it wants to impeach Trump. He stayed in his lane. It's now up to Congress to have some backbone.
     
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  5. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Mueller has spent his life going by the book, just as he has in this instance. I fully expect that when he testifies to Congress, and is inevitably asked "in your opinion, did the President obstruct justice?" or some version of that thought, he will respond to the effect "that's not my job. I present the evidence, you make that decision." Which is gonna take him off Nancy Pelosi's Christmas card list (it's very apparent the moderate new members of her caucus have told her they won't vote for impeachment so please don't hold the vote), but tough shit.
     
  6. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Once again, the guy who claims to hate President Trump makes an argument that helps prop up President Trump.
     
  7. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

  8. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    The ORIGINAL investigation comprised ALL Republican candidates and was DOMESTIC research. The second part --- which began in April 2016 and involved the DNC and the Clinton campaign --- involved foreign research that produced the dossier.
     
  9. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member


    What's the theory here? When candidates conduct private business in foreign countries, other candidates can't try to figure out what they're doing, because that would be collusion?

    The whole point of Steele's work was, "Donald Trump is not being forthright about his business activities in Russia. Why?"
     
  10. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Once again, like Webster, you read something as a "defense" that was not a defense. It was simply debating precise word usage.

    Government is funding Trump's lavish shit. That money comes from printing presses that add to our deficit. They don't come from BTExpress' 1040.

    You can hate Trump's lavish shit adding to the deficit all you want. I'll join you in that pursuit. Just don't call it "taxpayer funded," because taxpayers' taxes aren't going up to fund it.
     
  11. Regan MacNeil

    Regan MacNeil Well-Known Member

    RTExpress is very careful about his word choice, people.
     
  12. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    We are reading it as a defense because you just keep finding ways to argue against criticisms of President Trump. It's almost as if you are so happy that your beloved Russia managed to help the guy get the job that you have to support him even if you don't like him. Oh wait. You are that happy about it. You don't even try to mask that you are happy that a foreign nation was able to fuck with a presidential election in the United States.

    Then there is the more simple answer. We are still paying taxes and eventually we are going to pay for that deficit in one way or another, so it's still taxpayer funded.
     
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