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President Trump: The NEW one and only politics thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Moderator1, Nov 12, 2016.

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  1. Jake from State Farm

    Jake from State Farm Well-Known Member

    I don’t think crap like the empty chair (a Clint Eastwood bit) and the congressman eating KFC helps the Democrats’ cause
     
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  2. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    I don't have a clue what you are talking about. Even less clue how it relates to my post that you quoted. Sorry.
     
  3. Justin_Rice

    Justin_Rice Well-Known Member

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  4. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

     
  5. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    A simple question doesn't include the word "suggest." And Barr knew it.

    Barr's answer: "I'm trying to grapple with the word 'suggest.' There have been discussions out there that - they have not asked me to open an investigation but -"

    Harris: "Perhaps they suggested?"

    Barr: "I wouldn't say suggest."

    Harris: "Hinted? Inferred? You don't know?"

    Barr: "No."

    Then she moved on to the next question. Barr then tries to give more context to her original question "I will say that -"

    Harris: "Sir, I'm asking a question."

    Now, Ragu, you tell me: Did she care about the answer? Or was she trying to put a word in there that's vague enough that he couldn't just give it a straight no - which, remember, is all she said she wanted - without providing context? Then she adds two more words - hinted and inferred - that, in the case hinted, may require Barr's interpretation of, like, vocal inflection and, in the case of inference, is almost impossible to interpret with 100% accuracy.

    Her next questions were equally purposeless, and I'll address those in a different post.
     
  6. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

  7. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    All that was egested from Paul Ryan's liquefied brain roughly from 2012-18 are ideas YOU have belched forth, right here on this forum, for a damn sight longer than that.
    The dummies on the left are so ready to embrace Rick Wilson and Bill Kristol as their champions, not bothering to discover the toxins they have released into the ecosystem since the Reagan-Bush years.
    Of course they realized they could turn a buck, handsomely, in 'renouncing' allegiance to a party of no ideas, and playing their new music on the lib networks.
    The invisible hand, indeed.
     
  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Of course she cared about the answer. There is nothing here to parse. We have seen how many examples of Trump trying to pressure, cajole, order without ordering. ... people under him to do corrupt or illegal things that benefit Trump? For example, when he asked Comey to lay off Michael Flynn. ... He didn't order him to do it outright. He made a little request. Man to man ... in the oval office. ... after he had everyone, including the AG, leave so there were no witnesses. ... the most powerful man on the planet, your boss, ASKING you do something very out of line. ... but it was just a request. ... And of course, when Comey didn't do what Trump wanted, he got fired.

    Want a half dozen other examples that have come out? She had good reason to ask the question that way. It was Barr who was playing games, trying to parse his way around admitting what she was asking about: Is this president trying to use the DOJ, with you as his toady, in corrupt ways? Have you seen it firsthand? I find it very straightforward, actually.
     
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  9. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    "I ask the convention for a Constitutional amendment in which every elected official must know and explain the difference between 'infer' and 'imply.' Thank you Mr. Chairman."
     
  10. Kato

    Kato Well-Known Member

    Harris is getting a lot of credit for making Barr squirm, and deservedly so, but Klobuchar was pretty brilliant in her line, too — first, by softening him up by asking for his support on a bipartisan anti-election-hacking bill and then by asking him about the patterns in Trump's actions that could constitute obstruction. On the latter point, Barr seemed to take each action (suggestions? hints? inferences?) separately and said they didn't rise to obstruction. But Klobuchar said that's not how prosectors work; they consider all of the evidence, look at the patterns, etc. She called it law school 101. Now I'm paraphrasing this stuff and am not a lawyer, but I thought she did a bang-up job in her time as well. And I think it set up what Harris was getting at, too.
     
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  11. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    Trump will now nominate his father in place of Moore.

    “My dad’s name is Fed,” President Trump said Friday. “So of course he’ll do a terrific job.”
     
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  12. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

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